Again it's another sunday and another in-depth discussion topic about our favourite game Dead or Alive.


This topic is about Improving or changing the overall feel of DOA.

Nearly similar to the DOA using weapons but this is aimed at the overall presentation of DOA.


CHARACTER BIO
From DOA1 to DOA4, the character's biogaphy has remained the same throughout the franchise, thus doesn't make any sense what date the DOA Tournament normally takes place.

If Kasumi is 17yrs from DOA2 and still 17yrs in DOA4, so then what time and date did DOA2/3/4 take place?

Do they announce new tournament every week or every month!?
Not to mention DOAX that is a side story to DOA.



CHANGES
Should DOA characters have their ages and bio changed in DOA5? To make it fresh and new?

It is wise for DOA5 to have an overall changes to the character's bio to make it new and fresh again.
There really isn't any need for weight, height because seriously how many gamers really give a damn about a character's weight and height!? Not unless they are a super fan of that character.

We want to see the character age just like how we want DOA series to expand; because it will be quite stupid if we have DOA7 and characters still attain the same age carried through out the series.



*MENU DESIGN
Believe me I like DOA's classic menu design; neatly design and easy to navigate however that all needs to change. We can't have the same menu design carried on from DOA2. Shouldn't developers try to push themselves and have their game have the best unique feature over other games?
In my own opinion Metroid Prime 2 Echoes has the best Menu design ever in any game!
We would love to see DOA5 have a different cool looking menu design; the original is still cool but come on now we are in next gen and things needs to be hi tech, better, professional and more future realistic.


CHANGES
We can still have the same menu style design, though instead of the navigation screen moving static like left to right. Why don't we have it move like a sphere change, it's hard to explain because I don't know what it's called though when you navigate it feels like you are just going round and round.



*CHARACTER INTERACTIVITY
One thing I love so much about Soul Calibur 4's storymode is when you face a character and they say a unique word towards each other.
Nightmare: "souls, feed me more souls!"
Asatoroth: "I'll give you something to drink!"
I love cool comments such as that; although DOA does have some unique character comments though only with certain characters. One awesome unique comment was in DOA3, if you beat Jan Lee with Leifang with 100% health, she'll say a special comment "YES, I won!". We want more of these comments in DOA.
More also from Soul Calibur and Mortal Kombat. Every time characters pull of certain move, they say some line while performing it or after. For an example Jaxx in Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, if you perform a certain type of move, he says "yeaaaaaaa". Or with Ivy in Soul Calibur 2, if you perform one of her high attacks, she says "DANCE".
We want these kind of comments for DOA Characters and not just them speaking comment such as "ike" (which I believe means "go") or "nikita".


CHANGES
Everytime character switches during Tag team mode, they should say a Japanese line meaning "take a break I'll take over now", "you need a rest, I'll cover you", "take a rest" or "I'm next!".
Rivals and nemesis in DOA5 should say a unique line to each other; Jan Lee should say a unique line to Hayabusa or Hitomi before fighting and after winning/losing. Rather than saying the same line "Hitomie Powerup":/
If character perform special moves or combos they should say a unique line rather than roaring or saying "nikita" or "ike".



*GAMEPLAY MODES
Again since DOA2 the game has maintain the same gameplay modes, Tag Team, Survival, Storymmode etc.
Team NINJA needs to change the overall feel of these gameplay modes. Does anyone seriously use the Camera mode?


CHANGES
We would want a 3 player in a team just like Marvel vs Capcom 2. Team Battle should be improved, if we have 5 vs 5, we should be able to switch in-between all of them or next 2 characters.
What about survival mode? can't we use two characters in survival mode too?

Also addition to the gamemode, we want a Tekken Force mode or Soul Calibur 3's Chronicles of the Sword mode. If this can't be done right, instead of making a standalone game DOA Code Cronus, why not add Code Cronus to DOA5 as it's own Chronicles of the Sword/Tekken Force mode. This time DOA characters can finally use weapons when fighting, if people disagree that DOA using weapon will feel like Soul Calibur.


*SPARRING MODE
I know a lot of casual gamers will not bother using DOA's sparring mode, average users will use the mode just to play the exercise mode and play to win/hardcore gamers will use the sparring mode just to learn 1 character's cheap winning movesets.
As for the exercise mode; now that I'm thinking about them, I don't know their purpose. It's just there for people who get bored and want to try out all character's moves. The most intriguing thing is character's exercise mode span from 80movesets to 100movesets! That's incredibly insane. I really don't see the point of a character having so much movesets as if a player will perform half of them. And character only needs less than 50movesets.


CHANGES
Can't we have a sparring mode oline? instead of training with A.I we can just spar with a friend online. Exercise mode should be more interesting rather than A.I standing and waiting for you to attack him/her. Can't we have a more challenging exercise mode whereas the system will inform you on how to perform a moveset. When it's your turn to perform it, the A.I will move around the map or try attacking or defending whilst you must try and perform that exercise task move.


*TAG TEAM
So far we can team up with another character that makes them a pair, ideally the character have a relationship interest with one another such as Ryu and Kasumi. More also there's a Tag Team Match that consists of 5 stages and you must use your 2 teamed up characters to progress and defeat other teamed up characters.


CHANGES
Like I noted before; why don't we have a 3 team-able characters like so in Marvel vs Capcom 3? 3 in a team- Ryu+Kasumi+Ayane or Bass+Tina+Zack then again Jann Lee+Leifang+Eliot. This will make sense because in DOA4 we have the Mugen Tenshin characters team up together to take on DOATEC.

With two paired teams both can perform double team throws together. How about if they could both perform a double combo attacks apart from throws? This is originally possible though you must switch characters in order to keep the combo following.

Another thing I'm thinking about having 2 paired teams, 1 character will be all offense and the secondary character will be defense.
So if you want to have better defense and less hit damages, you can just switch to your defense character. It will add more gameplay to the system just like Marvel vs Capcom 2 has the Assist Types: by a character coming in with a projectile, uppercut or expansion (throwing or grabbing).


*COUNTER SYSTEM
Countering was one of the best defense feature for DOA games and has gone down the slope with the revamp changes in DOA 4. Why do we need to push forward+counter to parry an High Attack? DOA3's parry system was perfect enough, it gives you a choice to play either as offense or just defending through out.


CHANGES
I wouldn't stress about this, just revert the counter system BACK to DOA 3's style!


*WATCH/RECORD MODE
Most people who just wants to take a time off and watch AI vs AI will select the WATCH mode, watch and relax. Some may even want to revise and look at their own recorded gameplay and see their lacking skill or how they destroyed an opponent. I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with this mode, there's nothing really wrong with it though certian adjustments can further improve the feature.

CHANGES
I can't recall much about DOA4, but wouldn't it be joke to be able to download recorded videos from users online? Wouldn't it be cool to be able to use the RECORDING Mode and upload them directly to Youtube? Most games are starting to use video uploading directly to Youtube, games such as Just Cause 2. Can't we watch A.I vs A.I with another player online?


*COSTUMES
One thing I love so much about DOA2 was the unlockables and unlockable costumes too; DOA2U had tons of costumes though they didn't have funny unique ones like Zack's Shadowman costume I love that costume so much, when you taunt, Zack's chest lights up
The costumes in DOA are one of the most significant importance things in the game, it helps defines the character's personality, taste and makes them stand out. Though when you look at other fighting games with costume features; they are quite advanced, with Tekken using character customisation by allowing characters to wear glasses or hats. And then you have Soul Calibur 4/Mortal Kombat Armageddon that gives you an option to create your own characters from start. DOA in the other hands is falling behind with this feature because of lack of customising a character.


CHANGES
Now DOA fans do not require in-dept character customization like so in SC4 or MK:A, we just want the ability to customize standard characters like Gen Fu; customizing and making him wear sun glasses, wolly hat and trainers. Allowing complete create a character from scratch will make gamers drift away from the fighting game, thus will start making game characters and start uploading them to Youtube like what they've done several times for Soul Calibur 4.

Please no character upgrades:/


*ONLINE SYSTEM
DOA4's online system really has no purpose, the inclusion of the Lobby system and avatar character was just there to make gamers keep playing and earning zen points so they can buy things for the avatar, I do think that purpose was seriously lame.
One thing that p*ssed me off so much was the hosting system. You host a game>you get defeated> winner becomes the admin of your room and takes control. I seriously do not understand this! More also you can't completely control the room, you can't even kick off trollers and spammers away from your room. Lagging.


CHANGES
Why don't you allow users to keep playing online; each time they advance to the next grade they unlock items for customizing characters from the fighting game not avatars. You can unlock like hear rings, glasses etc. Zen money can still be included. Play scoreboard, win or lose you gain money, if you win you get higher than normal. Gather enough money and you can buy items for customizing character.

Team NINJA should learn the meaning of friendly play and serious play! Friendly play means- even if the host lost in a match; he/she will still be in control and kick people off. If it's serious play; host WILL still have control over the room though winner can change gameplay types and rules!

I like how you can name your room.
DOA is one of the best 3D fighting games out there, casual gamers even pick up the game for the girls, breast and flashing moves. If publisher like Tecmo think they can take a p*ss by using bad servers so they can save space on servers because gamers will loose interest in the game after a month, they shouldn't think about it! If DOA5 have a bad server then gamers will start to lose interest in the series and make DOA known for it's bad server.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: xino,

Are all your ideas jjust stolen from other fighting games?

Tecmo has staff to work on improving/changing their games so theres no need to put too much effot into it.

Itagaki stated that he and his team had made the ultimate DOA game when they released 4 and said it couldn't get any better. BUT now Hayashi is in charge I wonder what spin he will put on the DOA franchise.

( i'm one of the very few people to reply on these boards so probably best not to start your post with an expletive. )

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Originally posted by Autumn Kasumi:
Are all your ideas jjust stolen from other fighting games?

Tecmo has staff to work on improving/changing their games so theres no need to put too much effot into it.

Itagaki stated that he and his team had made the ultimate DOA game when they released 4 and said it couldn't get any better. BUT now Hayashi is in charge I wonder what spin he will put on the DOA franchise.

( i'm one of the very few people to reply on these boards so probably best not to start your post with an expletive. )

How are they stolen from other games!???

We now have a fake gamers here who think using idea is wrong or stealing.
I guess Uncharted 2 stole ideas from lots of games, same goes to DarkSiders, 3DotHeroes, Spiderman Shattered Dimensions, Ninja Gaide, Ninja Blade, Gears of War etc
Using idea from other games is not stealing, it makes your own creative game better!
If you don't want to agree, then I guess you can keep going on about it and say Dante's Inferno is a copy of God of War.

If Team NINJA have staffs to work on DOA games and improve it then I guess we'll get the same thing we got for the past few decades.
The menu design will be the same, similar tracks, same game type modes, same character biography etc.
If new staffs arrive and work in with the team, the current game they are working on will have changes.
New staffs and team in New Team NINJA worked on Sigma 2 and you can clearly see just how different Sigma 2 feels in comparison to NG2. Same can be said with Ninja Gaiden Sigma in comparison to Ninja Gaiden Black.

So....Itagaki said that....and you believe him. lol...seriously, why do I always come across fanboys and itagaki lovers!?
DOA4 is the best fighting game eh? I guess you should read his other interviews comments saying "If you play Ninja Gaiden 2, you'll never go back to Ninja Gaiden Sigma", "Making Ninja Gaiden 2 on ps3 will be a face of lost for everyone who were involved in making that game", "The world best powerful system, the Xbox 360".
DOA 4 is the best fighting game? is that why half of the fans hated that game? Please do not use review scores from big websites (IGN, Gamespot, Metacritic) as references because I don't want to educate another person with journalism's scheme and biased websites.


( i'm one of the very few people to reply on these boards so probably best not to start your post with an expletive. )

Yea you better be, because I won't be taking nonsense with you again. If you want a mature discussion, do not troll with useless comments or start talking about someone's English because that is hypocrisy since you can't even barely look at your own English.

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Originally posted by xino:

Yea you better be, because I won't be taking nonsense with you again. If you want a mature discussion, do not troll with useless comments or start talking about someone's English because that is hypocrisy since you can't even barely look at your own English.

LOL!! thats not even legible!!

did you even READ what I wrote?? LOL!!

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Originally posted by Autumn Kasumi:

quote:

Originally posted by xino:

Yea you better be, because I won't be taking nonsense with you again. If you want a mature discussion, do not troll with useless comments or start talking about someone's English because that is hypocrisy since you can't even barely look at your own English.

LOL!! thats not even legible!!

did you even READ what I wrote?? LOL!!

you know the usual saying "t*ts or gtfo!".
My version "ass or gtfo".

I'm afraid you don't even have both and you are labeled as a girl too
in between a male and female is what we call an asexual= this is you.

that post got reported too.

and by the way, asexual creatures still have an "ass". Do you need science lessons as well as English? lol

today's English lesson:

you meant to say: "asexual = you"
you actually said: "asexual = this is you"

quote:

Originally posted by Autumn Kasumi:
that post got reported too.

and by the way, asexual creatures still have an "ass". Do you need science lessons as well as English? lol

today's English lesson:

you meant to say: "asexual = you"
you actually said: "asexual = this is you"

report me all you want troll.

You keep trolling with useless replies and you'll get insults back from me!

Either don't reply to my topics and make your own or gtfo back to your mom's womb

as expected "troll" is the only reply you can come up with.

because that is what you do and that is what you are.

it's like me complaining about someone always calling out "it's a dog".
well, because the dog is a dog

quote:

Originally posted by xino:
because that is what you do and that is what you are.

it's like me complaining about someone always calling out "it's a dog".
well, because the dog is a dog

that doesn't even make sense.

You should learn what an actual internet troll is then come back here. Might I suggest a mirror?

you're trying to say I'm a troll!?

tell me then...how am I a troll?

you post abussive comments on the internet. You're a troll.

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

"you post abussive comments on the internet."

please just go away and leave me alone.
lol

you asked me how you're a troll and I told you.

do you want me to leave you alone so you can work on your attitude problem?

i don't care just leave me alone

You two just can't get along can you?

Well, ignoring all the flamming and getting back on track, I agree with you on a lot of things; the counter system being the biggest complaint I had from DOA4.

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Originally posted by Versus Omnibus:
You two just can't get along can you?

thats because i'm a true DOA fan and this guy just wants to turn it into some mortal kombat / soul calibur / tekken crap and lose the essence of DOA and what makes it better than those other fighters!

If DOA5 is ever released, please re adjust the difficulty from impossibly cheap to humanly cheap that was DOA4. The game was virtually unplayable solo....heck it made Jinpachi of Tekken 5 look like a cubscout.

lol true DOA fan. So Team NINJA should only listen to your idea and make the game just for you.

I'm speaking for everybody here and fans of DOA. I speak on what should benefit all but not what I only want.

Essence of DOA...I'll be paying £40 every time for a new DOA game. And what comes with it? new characters, new stages and new movesets. And you call this a new game? I'm sorry but I won't be paying £40 for that half @ss expansion retail game!

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Originally posted by xino:
lol true DOA fan. So Team NINJA should only listen to your idea and make the game just for you.

you still making stuff up?

see you haven't matured at all then.