there’s always been a rumour that there will be a DOA5,
but recently iv been hearing a bit more of it,
and over at the Tecmo face book they've started asking the fans questions about DOA, not any major questions just things like “Who is your favourite Dead or Alive fighter?, What is Kasumi's favourite cake? and What is Christie's favourite drink?”
and now i find the rumour in the Official PlayStation Magazine



scan of the full page:

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Like you said; the rumor has always said DOA5 was in production. Although I never would have guessed it asppear on PS3 as well.

I mean I don't know:/ It could be Ninja Gaiden 3. But if they make NG3, then they are ignoring DOA5 and Code Cronus again and one of those games have to be made.

Because the rumour machine saying there's going to be a Ghost Game for Modern Warefare 2 is just fake. People were just spreading the rumours around.

What's a bigger game? Dead Or Alive or Ninja Gaiden?
NG is an acclaimed series, so what about DOA?

well it says "in production for ps3" but is it exclusively?
any ways as long as I get to play it on the ps3(FINALLY) it's great.
However if it is to be completed, it will be the 1st non Itagaki DOA.
and is Hayashi going to do it as he did for NG?
All I'm saying is this DOA will be nothing like any other we've played before.

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Because the rumour machine saying there's going to be a Ghost Game for Modern Warefare 2 is just fake. People were just spreading the rumours around.

during the premiere of MW2 in London, the voice actor for ghost let it slip that their thinking of giving ghost his own game thats where it started from

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Originally posted by xino:
I mean I don't know:/ It could be Ninja Gaiden 3. But if they make NG3, then they are ignoring DOA5 and Code Cronus again and one of those games have to be made.


What's a bigger game? Dead Or Alive or Ninja Gaiden?
NG is an acclaimed series, so what about DOA?

Code Cronus, I think, should be top of the list for Team Ninja. That game hasn't even been given a genre except "it won't be a fighting game". So will it be a hack-and-slash like Ninja Gaiden or something else?

Overall the last DOA game was made years ago and that is too long for a game franchise that saved Tecmo's ass from shuting down. We need a new DOA game, regardless what Itagaki-san said.

you are right

That game hasn't even been given a genre except "it won't be a fighting game". So will it be a hack-and-slash like Ninja Gaiden or something else?
Fark it! Make Code Cronus Hack n Slash like Ninja Gaiden!
You can add all DOA characters to it for all I care, so as long as they don't exist in Ryu's game.

I seem to remember them saying that they won’t be going through with CC, but i hope they do as for it having a genre iv read that it was going to be a Action RPG based on Kasumi and Ayane but then some sits have it down as bing an action game,

I like to think that CC is just code name for Kunoichi Gaiden, and i think they really got to give the NG girls their own game, cos NG is starting to crowed,
They should just do a Kunoichi Gaiden which follows the story of Kasumi Ayane and Momiji
The girls should basically be doing what their already doing in NG, you know Ayane running items and messages between Ryu and Joe, Momiji protecting the village and Kasumi helping out in some other way,
Any they should have Kunoichi Gaiden be a little less hard core, and have it do all the fan serves, and then in NG have Ryu and Hayate running the real fight

Not to sound like a complete ass or anything but
don't you think the statment that Ryu and Hayate running the real fight is a tad sexist. Don't get me wrong or anything I know canonly Ryu is pretty much at the top but isn't Kasumi supposed to be stronger than her brother?

Another thing if they do continue the DOA series I would like them to get rid of that incestious triangle thing they got goin on between Ayane Hayate and Kaasumi it feels like a bad hentai, Ayane's ending in DOA 4 common that just felt a tad wrong

... iv read that it was going to be a Action RPG based on Kasumi and Ayane but then some sits have it down as bing an action game...

Please don't let that be true.

Not to sound like a complete ass or anything but don't you think the statment that Ryu and Hayate running the real fight is a tad sexist. Don't get me wrong or anything I know canonly Ryu is pretty much at the top but isn't Kasumi supposed to be stronger than her brother?

Kasumi did defeat Raidou while Hayate and Ayane couldn't even touch him. So that does show Kasumi to be the more powerful of the three siblings, she just is a bit softer in terms of personality.

Another thing if they do continue the DOA series I would like them to get rid of that incestious triangle thing they got goin on between Ayane Hayate and Kasumi it feels like a bad hentai, Ayane's ending in DOA 4 common that just felt a tad wrong

This I agree with this completely. They could at least focus on it just be a sibling bond then anything else.

I just hope that they make a confirmation soon. Its been over 4 years since we had any updates for doa4(only receiving one gameplay revision, an extra 3 or so would have extended the life of the game..ala vf5). We are bored and we some new life into the series. Any official announcement will bring much joy to the community.

Kasumi stronger than Hayate? preposterous!
And I do hate the stupid crap about Ayane loves Hayate, some incest sh*:/

Kode Kronus to be RPG like? kill me!

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Originally posted by xino:
Kasumi stronger than Hayate? preposterous!

The cutscene doesn't lie man. Hayate was unable to defeat Raidou but Kasumi was able to in DOA1.

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Originally posted by xino:
Kasumi stronger than Hayate? preposterous!

The cutscene doesn't lie man. Hayate was unable to defeat Raidou but Kasumi was able to in DOA1.

don't forget that Hayabusa helped Kasumi help defeat Raidou the rapist.

Either way, she defeated the rapist, Hayate didn't.

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Originally posted by Phantalus:
Not to sound like a complete ass or anything but
don't you think the statment that Ryu and Hayate running the real fight is a tad sexist.

lol. i don’t think it’s got anything to do with gender, actually if you think about it isn’t having girls in a game called “Ninja” Gaiden being sexist, and then to have the girls play a very little roll in the game as well,
the reason i said the Ryu and Hayate should be running the real fight is because of the shear fact that its called “Ninja” Gaiden

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Originally posted by Phantalus:
Don't get me wrong or anything I know canonly Ryu is pretty much at the top but isn't Kasumi supposed to be stronger than her brother?

I don’t think Kasumi’s stronger then her brother, first of all in the DOAU2 opening i got the feeling that Hayate was the one who trained Kasumi, you know with all the jumping and trying to get that flower, and then when Raidou attacked the Mugen Tenshin he came with loads of his own guys, so for all we know Hayate could have been fighting off armys off ninjas and then fallen at Raidou, and finally Raidou defeated Hayate using ninpo, i also got the feeling that Hayate was not comfortable using his Torn Sky Blast ninpo, and Raidou was clearly comfortable using it,

When Kasumi fights Raidou there in the DOA tournament so no ninpo, and also motivation Hayate’s motivation when fighting Raidou was to protect the Mugen Tenshin, Kasumi’s motivation when fighting Raidou was to kill him,

If you judge all the characters strengths by the DOA tournaments alone then according to the first DOA Kasumi was stronger than Ryu, in the second DOA Ryu was the strongest and in the thirds DOA Ayane out dose Kasumi, Hayate and Ryu

You can’t have the same character winning the tournament every time, and the characters that do win the tournament is always story related, Kasumi won DOA by beating the guy who but har brother in a comer, Ryu won DOA2 after beating the Tengu a creature of the underworld, Ryu’s clan deals with matters of the underworld, Ayane won DOA3 by killing Omega because she wanted to bring peace to her foster father

I don’t know who won DOA4 I got the feeling that DOA4 didn’t come to an end cos Kasumi went on to fight her clone and Hayate, Ayane and Ryu attacked the tri towers and it sort off felt like the tournament didn’t come to an end,

I think it would be nice if the tournament was abandoned its sort of different in terms of story, and let’s face it DOA being a fighting game it needs all the help in story it can get

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Originally posted by Phantalus:
Another thing if they do continue the DOA series I would like them to get rid of that incestious triangle thing they got goin on between Ayane Hayate and Kaasumi it feels like a bad hentai, Ayane's ending in DOA 4 common that just felt a tad wrong

This so needs to be sorted out, cos it’s just weird i mean are thy ok with this stuff in Japan, even in the DOA movie not that there’s a connection between the DOA movie and DOA the game, i refuse to accept that the game is related to the bag of sit that was the movie, but in the move the was clear incest with Hayate and Ayane, but i was later told that Ayane was Hayate’s stepsister in the move which further removes the connection between the game and movie,

If Team NINJA need to have some sort of “it’s not right romance” in the game, then have Ryu with Kasumi with the whole he’s here protector and she’s his best friends sister, and have Hayate with Hitomi which comes with the he’s a clan leader and she’s doesn’t even have a clan
And hell bring someone in for Ayane

I think the ending of DOA4 was good, Ayane stopping Kasumi from entering the explosion seemd lik their rivalry might be coming to a close and we’ll see something new,

Just going back to the Ninja Gaiden and Kunoichi Gaiden thing, the reason id want Ryu and Hayate taking the real fight is because of their status, Ryu’s from the Hayabusa the guys who deal with the fiend situations, and he’s also the Hayabusa’s most capable ninja, this is further proven by Ayane who’s not a Hayabusa being given high status tasks such as retrieving the Dragon’s Eye, yes there is Joe, but i think he’s times coming to an end,

And also Ryu out ranks Ayane and Momiji, i don’t know if he would out rank Kasumi cos in terms of status within their own clans Kasumi is royalty and next in line, but then again within the Hayabusa Ryu is royalty and next in line,

As for Hayate he out ranks every one, in terms of hierarchy id say Hayate out ranks Ryu just like Joe out ranks Ryu because Joe’s a clan leader , so that’s my reasons for saying Ryu and Hayate should be running the real fight

Im not saying that Hayate would give orders to Ryu

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Now I see in terms of ranking in the ninja clans I get ya as for the whole Kasumi being stronger thing I can't remember where but I do remember something being said about Kasumi's latent potential being stronger than Hayate's but do to her kind hearted naturer she can't fully access it hence Alpha 152 has no emotions and is fully capable of accessing that latent potential.

i love this quick reply sh*, now I don't have to keep looking at comments for remembrance. Plus it works like the PS3's Chat system!

lol. i don’t think it’s got anything to do with gender, actually if you think about it isn’t having girls in a game called “Ninja” Gaiden being sexist, and then to have the girls play a very little roll in the game as well,
the reason i said the Ryu and Hayate should be running the real fight is because of the shear fact that its called “Ninja” Gaiden Sure it may not do with gender but I still disagree with your "NINJA", it's meant to have Hayate and Ryu".
This is Ninja Mother farking Gaiden for goodness sake
It's all about Ryu, even though this 21st NG is a revamp of the original, it still has the original concept within, which is about Ryu and the NG Universe.

DOA is a different game, Ryu stars in it like a Unique character for DOA. Just like how Yoshimistu stars in every Tekken game but he's just a unique character. If he is part of Tekken world for good, then why do we have him for Soul Calibur series?

So you must understand that Ryu is just a unique character for DOA, he has his own game called NG. DOA Characters do not necessary need to star in his own game but can only be a cameo. Like we can see Ryu travel to a shop in one of NG series, the shop owner manages to be Gen Fu. And more also don't forget DOA's character relationship with each other because of their tagging.

Having Ayane for NG first time was nice, but keep putting her in NG all the time will just ruin something but then again will build up a storyline for Ayane. Since she's a BASTARD child, who couldn't part with Kasumi and Hayate but worked in the shadows for Hajinmon.
Again having DOA characters to NG will just decrease the chance to expand NG's character universe. I love Rachel, she was really a unique character in NG. If we could have more new characters specifically for NG rather than a replacement from DOA, by then we can demand for more characters from NG to star in DOA as guest character instead.

I mean some people already want either Momiji or Rachel to guest star in DOA5. Is that all? if NG doesn't develop enough new characters, there wouldn't be any more to choose from.


i also got the feeling that Hayate was not comfortable using his Torn Sky Blast ninpo, and Raidou was clearly comfortable using it,Hayate hasn't mastered it yet and not capable of it's powers and ability. Basically too young for it.


When Kasumi fights Raidou there in the DOA tournament so no ninpo, and also motivation Hayate’s motivation when fighting Raidou was to protect the Mugen Tenshin, Kasumi’s motivation when fighting Raidou was to kill him, It's really hard to explain the tournament for DOA. I like the concept of DOA Movie over how the girls were invited. But I love Tekken Motion Picture's tournament style better. I would agree that no weapons, magic or ninpo is allowed during Tournament. But as for characters facing off Raidou, Raidou is bound to break the rules. So of course he'll use ninpo.


You can’t have the same character winning the tournament every time, and the characters that do win the tournament is always story related, Kasumi won DOA by beating the guy who but har brother in a comer, Ryu won DOA2 after beating the Tengu a creature of the underworld, Ryu’s clan deals with matters of the underworld, Ayane won DOA3 by killing Omega because she wanted to bring peace to her foster fatherYea, judging by character's strength on DOA Winners will be unbalanced and stupid.

Hayabusa joined DOA to help and protect Kasumi, winning it wasn't his concern. Ryu joined DOA2 to stop Tengu, just like you said Hayabusa clan's duty is to be-rid of evil that threatens the world.
Ayane didn't win DOA3, it was Zack and he used the money to build ZACK Hentai DOAXXX Island. Though Ayane got her wish by killing Omega 3.
Yea, I don't think anybody won DOA4, all the ninjas joined forces to take down DOATEC, while Helena has her own plans. Alpha 512/125 escaped. Ending for kokoro and Helena was retarded. Whose mother again???


Oh I yea just saw the ending of DOAX2, Zack did not die but was levitated by some unknown UFO type of light. They can even build a new story for DOA 5 about the usual meteors and the UFO light.


I think the ending of DOA4 was good, Ayane stopping Kasumi from entering the explosion seemd lik their rivalry might be coming to a close and we’ll see something new, Not really, they are still sisters till the end, just because you have a rival doesn't mean you want him dead for good.



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I'm gonna quote your life out!

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Originally posted by Phantalus:
Now I see in terms of ranking in the ninja clans I get ya as for the whole Kasumi being stronger thing I can't remember where but I do remember something being said about Kasumi's latent potential being stronger than Hayate's but do to her kind hearted naturer she can't fully access it hence Alpha 152 has no emotions and is fully capable of accessing that latent potential.

Im actually impressed by that point, but im going to try and combat it
So what I get from that comment is that Hayate is stronger then Kasumi because she’s being held back by her non-violent nature, and if her uman side is taken out then she would be stronger then Hayate, but in the same way if Hayate’s human side is taken out wouldn’t that make Hayate stronger then Alpha 152, I suppose that you can say that Hayate doesn’t have a human side to be taken out, which I would agree to slightly, but Hayate did get crippled trying to protect his village and in DOA 3 he dose try and avoid fighting Kasumi which shows compassion, and the reason why he’s attacking DOA TEC is because of what they did to the Mugan..

So id say he dose have some human aspects to his just not as much as Kasumi that’s probably what makes him stronger

Like I said you made a very good point, which also helps in explaining how she beat Raidou,

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Originally posted by xino:

] Sure it may not do with gender but I still disagree with your "NINJA", it's meant to have Hayate and Ryu".
This is Ninja Mother farking Gaiden for goodness sake
It's all about Ryu, even though this 21st NG is a revamp of the original, it still has the original concept within, which is about Ryu and the NG Universe.

where going to see other playable characters in NG that aren’t Ryu and I feel Hayate would be the best chose,
it might be the original concept, but you cant avoid the fact that NG and DOA are clearly embedded in to each other, in NG we see DOA posters and a DOA building, Ayane and Kasumi have already been but in to the game, and in DOA2 with Ryu killing the Tengu that’s just pure NG,

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Originally posted by xino:
DOA is a different game, Ryu stars in it like a Unique character for DOA. Just like how Yoshimistu stars in every Tekken game but he's just a unique character. If he is part of Tekken world for good, then why do we have him for Soul Calibur series?

Im not to familiar with the stories in Tekken and SC, but from what I know Yoshimistu is a Tekken character that appears in SC, I don’t see who that’s any reflection of Ryu appearing in DOA, Ryu is a serious part of DOA he has his own reasons for being there and a part of his actual story in volves DOA, I mean look at it laike this if Ryu was to write a biography he would but down his experiences of DOA,

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Originally posted by xino:
So you must understand that Ryu is just a unique character for DOA, he has his own game called NG.

Ryu is a character in both DOA and NG and I don’t see whats wrong with that, it only adds to him it doesn’t take any thing away and its not like it contradicts any thing from NG if any thing it enforces NG by having Ruy kill the Tengu,

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Originally posted by xino:
DOA Characters do not necessary need to star in his own game but can only be a cameo.

DOA character don’t have to be apart of NG but the Mugen Tenshin the connection to the Mugen Tenshin is apart of Ryu, Ryu protects Kasumi and Hayates his best friend these are thing that you cant avoid, and then you have things like the worlds coming under attack and the Mugen Tenshin are no where to be seen, it only messes up NG by not having any mention of the Mugen Tenshin

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Originally posted by xino:
Like we can see Ryu travel to a shop in one of NG series, the shop owner manages to be Gen Fu. And more also don't forget DOA's character relationship with each other because of their tagging.

You seem to be contradicting your self, this only proves that NG and DOA are connected

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Originally posted by xino:
Having Ayane for NG first time was nice, but keep putting her in NG all the time will just ruin something but then again will build up a storyline for Ayane. Since she's a BASTARD child, who couldn't part with Kasumi and Hayate but worked in the shadows for Hajinmon.

This builds story fro every one, Ayane obviously bing the first but also for Ryu, I man how dose he know Ayane, and Ryu knowing Ayane I think adds to hiss coolness, we all know that Ayane is the type of character who dosent give a crap who you are and dosent take **** from no one, but yet she calls Ryu some one from another clan master, and shows him respect,

Just on a side not I think Ayane’s a brilliant character, I love the stubborn attitude she has, but you know that a singles word from Hayate would but her in her palace, from what we know Ayane has only ever ad respect for a had full of people, Muri, Joe, Genra and right at the top of the list is Hayate and Ryu

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Originally posted by xino:
Again having DOA characters to NG will just decrease the chance to expand NG's character universe.

The only character that have to be added to NG that are from DOA are Hayate, Kasumi and Ayane

As for expanding NG character I don’t see why that cant be done even with the DOA characters, the DOA characters only give provide the opportunity for them to be connected to the DOA characters,
Like I think Ayane and Momiji could be friends, because if Ayanes running between the Hayabusa and the Mugen Tenshin she’s bound to run in to Momiji and Momiji is a lot like Kasumi, in terms of being innocent and every thing, so we could have Ayane still looking for a friend to replace Kasumi and this could also fit in with the DOA4 ending, sort of like Ayane has no more reason for being jealous of Kasumi henc stopping her from entering the fire,

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Originally posted by xino:
I love Rachel, she was really a unique character in NG. If we could have more new characters specifically for NG rather than a replacement from DOA, by then we can demand for more characters from NG to star in DOA as guest character instead.

Rachel was the better character added in NG the worst being Sonia, they got to keep Rachel, but if they where going to add more NG original characters then it should be characters like Momiji and Joe,

Im all for bringing in new characters but as for playable Hayate should come first, the girls in NGS2 where brilliant but when playing as one of the girls I always had the feeling that I was moving down to a weaker character, Momiji and Rachel are way off Ryu’s level and Ayane was slightly closer but still weaker then Ryu, and if they bring in new characters there just going tobe characters that are all weaker then Ryu, but with Hayate, you got Ryu’s equal you got clan status, you get the expansion of the NG universe by adding a new clan, and you also got ever back story, not only for clan ties but for Ryu

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Originally posted by xino:
I mean some people already want either Momiji or Rachel to guest star in DOA5. Is that all? if NG doesn't develop enough new characters, there wouldn't be any more to choose from.

Again your contradicting your self you say that NG and DOA are not connectd but you want NG characters in DOA,

Didn’t Hayashi say he’d be bringing Momiji to DOA any way and Rachel can already be seen in DOA,


Hayabusa joined DOA to help and protect Kasumi, winning it wasn't his concern. Ryu joined DOA2 to stop Tengu, just like you said Hayabusa clan's duty is to be-rid of evil that threatens the world.

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Originally posted by xino
Ayane didn't win DOA3, it was Zack and he used the money to build ZACK Hentai DOAXXX Island. Though Ayane got her wish by killing Omega 3.
Yea, I don't think anybody won DOA4, all the ninjas joined forces to take down DOATEC, while Helena has her own plans. Alpha 512/125 escaped. Ending for kokoro and Helena was retarded. Whose mother again???

Ayane did win the DOA3 but disappeared after killing Omega so the money was handed to Zack, I can’t remember if it was handed to Zack because he was runner up or because all the other ninjas disappeared as well

A similar thing happened with DOA2 Ryu killed the Tengu but Gen Fu took its nose, to heal his daughter hence why he wasn’t apart of the DOA4 tournament

And Helena is Kokoro’s mothers half sister

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Originally posted by xino
I think the ending of DOA4 was good, Ayane stopping Kasumi from entering the explosion seemd lik their rivalry might be coming to a close and we’ll see something new, Not really, they are still sisters till the end, just because you have a rival doesn't mean you want him dead for good.

That’s true, but what I was saying was that we’d see some thing new sort of like Kasumi being back in to the clan and a new reson for all the characters to meet up at DOA

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Originally posted by xino
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I'm gonna quote your life out!

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some thing that I fear that Team NINJA would do if they keep adding new characters to NG is that where going to get characters like Sonia, and more over blossomed under dressed blond girls, who keep having this one sided romance with Ryu,

and I hate it when these half assed characters are given preference over character such as Ayane Kasumi and Hayete, cos any one of them dose more for NG’s story then Sonia

I started removing the connection between the old NG’s and NG 2004, because it just doesn’t fit and I think its better if the connection it removed, don’t get me wrong the original NGs where grate, but its time to move on

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where going to see other playable characters in NG that aren’t Ryu and I feel Hayate would be the best chose,
it might be the original concept, but you cant avoid the fact that NG and DOA are clearly embedded in to each other, in NG we see DOA posters and a DOA building, Ayane and Kasumi have already been but in to the game, and in DOA2 with Ryu killing the Tengu that’s just pure NG,Why must it be Hayate!? you just makes it sound as if DOA is based on all the ninja characters in DOA game. DOA is all about all the fighters in the game not just the ninjas. Team NINJA (hence NINJA), only favours those ninja characters and developed them better, and made them over powered in DOA4 because well they love ninjas in the end. Just because the title NINJA Gaiden has NINJA written on it does mean it supposed to be about Ninjas. NINJA GAIDEN is a title for Ryu Hayabusa's game. So someone to fight alongside him doesn't have to be a ninja character or Hayate, it can be any body he tags throws with in DOA.

Also we only saw DOA posters in NG, though it was only for Ninja Gaiden black. They tried to promote on of their own games which was DOAU2. We also see DOA posters in NG2/S2 because well time is not ahead of Team NINJA so it would also be wise to put a poster of their own game and since DOA does connect to NG.
Once again it was unknown and wrong for putting Ayane in NG in the first place. Still no back story or reason WHY Ayane helps Ryu Hayabusa. You made it sound as if Kasumi had a big role in NGS2. She was only a cameo for DOA fanservice. Doesn't literally means she's actually in the game, just a cameo.


DOA character don’t have to be apart of NG but the Mugen Tenshin the connection to the Mugen Tenshin is apart of Ryu, Ryu protects Kasumi and Hayates his best friend these are thing that you cant avoid, and then you have things like the worlds coming under attack and the Mugen Tenshin are no where to be seen, it only messes up NG by not having any mention of the Mugen TenshinOnce again, you made it sound as if DOA is loosely based on all Ninja characters in the game. Like I said before, remember the character affection to each other which has something to do with their tagging. I mean, why would Ryu wanna tag with Gen Fu? I can say characters like Jan Lee does connect with Ryu, since Ryu tries to stop Jan Lee from defeating opponents he underestimates. What about Ryu and Bayman?

This builds story fro every oneNo it only builds character for ninja characters in DOA but not for other characters in DOA. Yet again, doesn't build up original characters for NG!

The only character that have to be added to NG that are from DOA are Hayate, Kasumi and Ayane No they are not, just because they are ninjas doesn't mean anything relating to ninjas is connected to Ryu. Characters Ryu can tag along with can be added to NG not just the ninjas.

Like I think Ayane and Momiji could be friends, because if Ayanes running between the Hayabusa and the Mugen Tenshin she’s bound to run in to Momiji and Momiji is a lot like Kasumi, in terms of being innocent and every thing, so we could have Ayane still looking for a friend to replace Kasumi and this could also fit in with the DOA4 ending, sort of like Ayane has no more reason for being jealous of Kasumi henc stopping her from entering the fire,:/
So you'll rather take a stale expanding than vast expanding?
This is the main problem with video game franchises!
Developers are always using the same things and recycled things to build a sequence in the end they call it new game. And it's always Nintendo and SEGA who abuse these things with their games Zelda, Mario and Sonic. Always the same crap. Then you have other people who are willingly to make the franchise vast and new: like giving Shadow a gun in Sonic game, introducing Nero to DMC series or even allowing us to know more about Metroid history. We never get to know anything about Samus Aran, Nintendo are always sticking to the same cheap shots and cliched gameplay whereas we have developers like Retro Studios who are willingly trying to build up the Metroid Story. Another thing I love so much is Metroid Other M: Team NINJA changed the way Samus fights, rather than the same cliched ways Nintendo are always using.

This is exactly the same situation with you, you want the same developed characters from DOA and NG but given deeper story. Rather than having new characters introduced that can connect with previous developed characters.

Rachel was the better character added in NG the worst being Sonia, they got to keep Rachel, but if they where going to add more NG original characters then it should be characters like Momiji and Joe,

Im all for bringing in new characters but as for playable Hayate should come first, the girls in NGS2 where brilliant but when playing as one of the girls I always had the feeling that I was moving down to a weaker character, Momiji and Rachel are way off Ryu’s level and Ayane was slightly closer but still weaker then Ryu, and if they bring in new characters there just going tobe characters that are all weaker then Ryu, but with Hayate, you got Ryu’s equal you got clan status, you get the expansion of the NG universe by adding a new clan, and you also got ever back story, not only for clan ties but for RyuSonia was added because she's a replacement for Irene, the original love of Ryu in classic NG.

Why should Hayate come first? you are only commenting out of your biased view and opinion. I know you love Hayate and favour him, but that doesn't mean he NEEDS to be the next character to be added. Unless you provide a strong point that proves he should be the next added character.
As for the character's sensation. That's how they were meant to be played. If Ayane feels weaker than Ryu, then that's how it's meant to be because she can't match Ryu. But has for gameplay, the girls are broken except for Rachel.

And why should adding a new character feel weaker than Ryu!? You are just thinking inside the box rather than open minded or outside the box.


Again your contradicting your self you say that NG and DOA are not connectd but you want NG characters in DOA, You are not reading my comments in the correct way, I didn't say or assume or suggested that DOA isn't connected to NG:/
I'm saying they are still two different games doing their things.
I mean if a city was bombed by an atom, should it be noted that a city was destroyed in both NG and DOA???
DOA and NG are just set in the same Universe but part of their story connects. It's like super heroes, Spiderman and Superman are in the same planet and continent but things that happens in their city doesn't affect one another.

Didn’t Hayashi say he’d be bringing Momiji to DOA any way and Rachel can already be seen in DOA, He never said such thing. He only said Rachel is an important character for Team NINJA and can be used for in/for other things.




Ayane did win the DOA3 but disappeared after killing Omega so the money was handed to Zack, I can’t remember if it was handed to Zack because he was runner up or because all the other ninjas disappeared as well Who said she won it:/ I only follow legit information that were confirmed by developers, written in the box art, manual or in-game. I don't like to make up my own story even though it would make sense. Like how people argue if RE2 took place before RE3. It clearly states that Zack won the tournament and used the money to build Zack's island. You made it sound as if Genra was the top tier list, who ever beats him wins the prize and is the winner of DOA.
Like I said, it doesn't work that way, if they made a movie out of this, you'll know the tournament wouldn't play like the fight sequences in the game.


***For an example, I can make my opinion and say. The top tier list WAS Genra, Ryu+Ayane+Kasumi+Hayate+Zack+Unknown were in the semi finals. Ryu and Hayate fought for the person to take on Genra. Same goes with Ayane and Kasumi. Ryu won but was counter attacked and defeated by Genra (Basically Genra sensed stronger opponents who were the ninjas). Ayane won by defeating Kasumi. Genra basically broke his rule by engaging in combat with underling fighters who haven't advanced in rank yet. Thus this gave Ayane a chance to defeat Genra in process. However Zack defeated the Unknown opponent allowed him to advanced to the finals, thus making him the winner of DOA.***

It's all about building up story.

About Gen Fu taking the nose of Gen Fu, yes that's true. Because it was confirmed by a cutscene. But there wasn't any confirmation or hint for DOA 3, so your answer is clearly opinion.

And Helena is Kokoro’s mothers half sisterfark me:/

i don’t carelol it's a joke:P


and I hate it when these half assed characters are given preference over character such as Ayane Kasumi and Hayete, cos any one of them dose more for NG’s story then SoniaJust because NG is connected to DOA doesn't mean the characters needs to be in the same game. You are forgetting that these two are still two completely different game. Some people who have played DOA haven't even played NG, same can be said vice versa.
That is why I say Ryu has his own game called NG and I by no mean assume that DOA isn't connected to NG. I want more unique and new characters for NG rather than DOA piling up on Ryu's beastly game.
I want to pick up a NG game and find new characters not DOA character all the time.
It's exactly the same thing with Kasumi appearing as a cameo, people are always wondering who that character is. People in here like Final Blade kept saying he wants to know more about this Kasumi that appeared in NGS2 and she needs to star in NGS2 DLC or NG3. That's the problem, if they keep doing cross overs, these games will not be unique but will be a chance to ruin the franchise and make money out of both franchise.
Because if you want to know about Kasumi, you need to buy DOA games.