Ok I made a blog that contains things I/we want in Ninja Gaiden 3. It's not just another list of things, but it's actually in detailed. I'll actually be making concept designs and stuff, and I'll keep updating it during my free time. http://blackxino.blogspot.com/



Ok now that NG3 is out and we expect a lot of changes for NG4, though we have to wait for Razor's Edge first. I've created NG4 blogspot that will accumulate all ideas I can think off for NG4. Please support it, comment if you like some ideas/decisions (your opinion) or not.

www.ninjagaiden4.blogspot.com

I will post new ideas from my blog here on this page so it doesn't look like I'm advertising.

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just perfect great menu

enjoyable



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thanks man, my purpose is put in as much details of how Ninja Gaiden 3 should look and play like. When I'm half way through my ideas, I'll post this blog to a public place where it can get hits. I'll even ask TKE to inform Team NINJA to browse the site even though it's in English.


awwwww...some poor butthurt rated down 1/5 star to my topics. Yo son, I don't give a damn, you can rate down my topic, I'm still better than you!

You make some interesting ideas but the ones I dislike the most is two specific sixaxis features: Using the Tilt Axis for nimpo(I hated it with a passion in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1, happy as hell they removed it) and two using it to make a females ass bounce.

You're effectively saying how stupid the breast bounce was with the Sixaxis and equally suggest another identical option that is stupid.

The other suggestions with the sixaxis are pretty good ideas but suggesting another body part to be moved using the sixaxis for females is just ridiculous

Rest of the blog looks good but at the end of the day, by doing everything that you presented would take far too long or possibly unrealistic for 360 version since their DVD9's don't store enough data. All in all, I think they should add a few new weapons, improve the story and graphics and add blood/gore to Ninja Gaiden 3 and it should be a much solid sequel.

I personally never cared much for the smoke bombs and the different types of arrows.

lol....well I really don't care much for the 6 axis on boobs because I wouldn't use it. But if they were to add something ridiculous like that, they should add it to the ass instead. lol:P


You make a valid strong point about the Xbox 360 disc:/ It all depends on how the graphics will look and how much stuff it will contain.


What do you think of the diary flashback idea?
you collect a dead ninja's diary and you watch a video cutscene flashback of how the ninja got killed. Similar to CSI.

haha, I suppose so though I would have preferred if Tecmo didn't make a huge deal about that feature in their japanese commercials(pretty sure that breast six axis feature was for them).

It wasn't even noticeable, that's the crappy part, I had to shake the controller crazily to see their breast move. I would definitely have using the axis to escape from being on the ground or whatever that suggestion was.

Sad thing is: NG3 will never be as perfect with the suggestions you presented as long as the 360 version will be made, although even if tecmo just uses a few ideas off of your blog and add it in I'm sure it'll be really good. Story needs to be in there and be good.

That diary flash back idea sounds interesting, would be curious to how it'd be tied to the story if any. perhaps give clues to who may be involved. But yea, that sounds like a cool little feature which wouldn't take much space imo.

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Also, look out for the prologue section in this game, we inserted it for our fans, there are some hints in there, things to look at that will point the way to the future. Of course, these secret elements will also be in there locked away in the story too, you have to look for them. And one final thing I have to say… look out for a “Golden Scarab”. Okay, that’s enough hints to keep your mouths wet!

Ok my Ninja Gaiden 3 speculations hints

*Story could be about the Vampire Wars. It doesn't make sense to make a introduction of the Vampire Wars and start with the ending of a Vampire King (Crimson)? Can you tell me if it makes sense? It's like saying God of War Prologue and introduction starts with Kratos fighting Ares. Therefore Ninja Gaiden 3 may take place between the Vampire War and the event will eventually lead to Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. We don't even know how the fiend suckers existed.

*Joe may even join Ryu in part of his mission or story. (both heroes fought Crimson together)

*More explanation to do with Darkness and light

*Blood will be in this game! could even exceed Ninja Gaiden 2's blood galons. Since narrative may tell the full story of the Vampire Wars, vampire=bloods. So expect to see blood.

*Golden Scarab are definitly returning and should offer new probationary things

*We could get a backdrop story about Dragon lineage existance.

*Game will likely take place more in the night since that's when vampire dwell. Game will atone a darkner feels since the word "darkenss" gets mentioned a lot.

*Joe Hayabusa is likely to be playable since he knows most of Ryu's moveset by performing the Izuna Drop to Crimson.

*Enviromental destruction in the game? Since Joe izuna drop Crimson and they both crashed on a car, the car was demolished, Ryu also performed the Guillotine Throw on Crimson and Crimson crumbled the building.

*lolz..."the..light":P

*After killing vampire fiends, their body may burn to ash just like Blade- Vampires.

*"In Time, It will come to be called the Vampire Wars". THIS IS A HINT! Ninja Gaiden 3 may be about the Vampire Wars. Ninja Gaiden 3- Vampire Wars.

*More connections with Ryu and Momiji

*More connections and interactions with the Hayabusa clans?

*"A dark shadown has fallen over Tokyo". Sky City Tokyo. It could be the location Ryu was heading and meant Sonia along the way. While gone on a trip, Black Spider Clan attacked the defenceless Hayabusa Clan village. Picture of Obaba which proves that Obaba with few ninjas went to Hayabusa village and secured the Eye of Da Dragon.

*"I will, Master Ryu, please be careful" Momiji. Ayane peeking on the conversation, notice she's wearing her Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 outfit. Once again, this leads to the event of Ninja Gaiden 2. Sanji was also there, how he got captured by Blue Tengu Brother. Momiji not wearing her white kunochi outfit but the Sigma 2 shrine maiden outfit.

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There was the spectre of long-gone large personalities that would have overshadowed our efforts if we didn’t make NGS2 something that the fans would support, then that would be the end of the NINJA GAIDEN series.

Referring to the fiend Itagaki. Which means, if Itagaki was in the lead, all our ideas would had been thrown in the trash cans. ALSO it means that Ninja Gaiden is a team work, team work of all Team NINJA staff and NOT ITAGAKI. Itagaki love stealing all the credit and makes NG/DOA his own game. This is why all these retarded fanboys of Itagaki always say NG/DOA is nothing without Itagaki.
He said something that we fans would support, which is 3 playable females and Co-oP!

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I fully understood why people would ask these questions, why they would be concerned, but I replied to them only saying “the game will speak for itself, let it be our answer to the critics, let our actions and dedication rise up and silence fears, not me, not here on a GDC panel without a rock star get up. I wear my passion in my heart, not on a leather jacket.

Talking about Anti PS3 or PS3 Nazi Itagaki:P Though Itagaki has changed now but still maintains the mr big mouth personality, anyone seen his recent interview with Gametrailers for his game ThirdDevil?

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In this title, Ryu says “Darkness is destined to lift in the end”. This is the theme of what NINJA GAIDEN franchise has in common, and what Team NINJA itself has experienced I guess. But let me leave with you my thanks again, and this tiny hint about the future. I think our users can feel through playing this ultimate package that Ryu himself is in the presence of such darkness and that ninjas themselves have that villainous streak. Ryu is anguished by it, he is touched by darkness. Such is his anguish and determination; I think this may creep over into any future NINJA GAIDEN stories. If you’re ninja enough to play this game till the end can immediately find out what that might be as well. But come on, we’re Team NINJA, we don’t design our games for people to finish.

Although this last hint I can't figure out.
Unless what he is saying is the obliteration techquies, how Ryu kills and finishes off those ninjas.

"If you’re ninja enough to play this game till the end can immediately find out what that might be as well." What could it be!???
Ryu saying Darkness is destined to lift in the end and Kasumi watching him walk away???
Or is it about Kasumi?





(sorry for spelling mistakes, FireFox dictionary not working:/)

I think thirdDevil being multiplatform has nothing to do with him but THQ or whoever he's with now.

no no, I talking about the 3rdDevil interview from Gametrailers.
Have you seen it? because Itagaki once again said some "interesting" stuff:P

thirdDevil or 3rdDevil or whatever it's called, I was just commenting on your quote about it being multiplatform

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Talking about Anti PS3 or PS3 Nazi Itagaki:P Though Itagaki has changed now but still maintains the mr big mouth personality, anyone seen his recent interview with Gametrailers for his game ThirdDevil?

the title being multiplatform isn't really up to Itagaki but moreso who he's involved with. Another interview I think on gamespot or...maybe it was gametrailers one you mentioned gave me the indication that it wasn't about console exclusivity.

Also, given the fact how much of a bomb NG2 was more companies even MS was hesitant on giving him a exclusive deal since NG2 didn't sell enough as it was projected.

well, he said the game would make 4million copies (lolz) so obviously it should go multiplatform.

I don't get what you mean by Microsoft giving him an exclusive deal since NG2 didn't sell!?:/


Anyway on my bog; more people voted for the PS3's next ninja gaiden version should be called 'Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3'.

I mean it would make sense if the PS3's version was called Ninja Gaiden 3. Then again Sigma series is different to Ninja Gaiden. And Hayashi kept saying the definition of Sigma which is the sum of all, basically Sigma version contains all data collected from all previous Ninja Gaiden, all rolled into 1.

If PS3's version is to be called Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3, then the ps3's version should have some sort of exclusive feature that the Xbox 360 version should not have. To make the ps3's sigma version stay true to it's meaning.

Then again if PS3's version is to be called Ninja Gaiden 3, it wouldn't make sense:/ since we had Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 on PS3.

What I meant was, MS was all for making some exclusive contract with Itagaki given the fact NG is a pretty big series and it was another top quality game the PS3 wasn't getting at the time.

Ever since the game was released, it met with mixed views and not good sales. Because of this MS is hesitant of making any exclusivity deal with him. Then this situation where he teamed up with THQ(iirc) to make 3rdDevil to make a multiplatform game. So it wasn't really itagaki's say in the matter of it being exclusive that's basically my point on that.


As far as Sigma moniker or name being in the PS3's version of NG3 idk. I don't think it should have Sigma name cause given the history of the games it came out year or more later than the original which would mean the PS3 users have to wait before getting it.
If Sigma means the sum of all, then I don't want Sigma 3 to have exclusive crap. I find that ridiculous and unfair. Tecmo's in a good position to make NG3 multiplatform at launch. Just focus on the game and that's it. Don't need anymore of this exclusive content nonsense. It made sense for Sigma 1 and 2 because they're basically ports of the 360 version and came out later on but in this case I don't agree with adding more for PS3 than 360.
They can keep the name but I just don't see any necessary reason for them to make console exclusive stuff. Just look at Soul Calibur 4 exclusive character for PS3 and 360? Eventually they made their way on the other console. Basically it was a waste of time to make them available for the game imo.

well I don't think devil's 3rd would make the same impact as NG did, but still giving its itagaki's depute game again it should be , other wise itagaki is falling back and I wouldn't expect him to catch up.

and about what Final blade said about sigma being a port and that it shouldn't have any exclusive "crap", and that being unfair.

well I'd like to say that it is not a port its a remake and it seems fair enough for PS3 owners because they waited enough for it.

and it is fair for team ninja because they get to do stuff they couldn't do with the Xbox or the 360 and the PS3 allows it.
and 360 owners did get to play the game the best way tecmo could make it on a 360, and nearly a year earlier .
so all parties are content. so don't say it's not fair.

now let me ask you a question.
do you think sigma 2 would fit in a DVD?
or would it run on a 360?

still I think that TN should make a simultaneous multiplat release so we don't have to wait for NG3 , DOA5 or what ever the next game is twice the time needed for it to be released.

Ook i agree with Despair! He spoke strong valid points!

Final Blade, these "crap" contents you are saying is a big hash word you know:/ Why should something you get free and exclusive be crap? Also other developers like EA are starting to make PS3's game version have exclusive contents. Batman AA on PS3 has Joker exclusive.
We will see exclusive content for Dead Space 2 on PS3, we also had exclusive content on PS3's Dante's Inferno as well.
I do agree it's not fair for PS3 to get sweet stuff and Xbox 360 to be left out, but I love my PS3 and since PS3 is a better system, it might as well deserve being treated more like a Princess (Kasumi).....LOL :P



And what Despair is saying is true!
Farking Xbox 360 will degrade the PS3's version. This p*sses me off so much with multiplatform games! Because the xbox 360 can't handle big boys graphics, developers will have to degrade the PS3's version to Xbox 360 level! This is so annoying and UNFAIR!

Now I'm afraid that Ninja Gaiden 3 will look half ass on ps3 because of Xbox 360 that can't handle such sweet graphics.


I don't care if PS3's Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3 doesn't get exclusive contents, but I want the graphics to be MAXED out on PS3's version! I want all CONTENTS to be there and not deleted! Use up all the Blu Ray space!

Once again, Despair is right, all the tasty contents on Sigma 2 would not even fit on XBOX 360's DvD disc, half of them would have to be DLC expansion.



Ok I finally invested on a cheap Tablet Pen! Which i've been anxious to get ever since. I'm actually a good beginner artist, I just abandoned my artist way I went for IT instead so I've haven't drawn anything since the days of schools. I'm getting used to this tablet pen since it doesn't feel accurate like drawing on paper, though i feel that this tablet pen is suited for painting an image:/

Here's my first concept art of how Anu the Hunter should look like (needs a better stronger bird like Japanese name)

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well xino I don't think that team ninja would make NG3 as bad as you imagine, since they can't make NG3 less in quality than any prequel, so it can't be worse than sigma2, that would give them a bad reputation, and if that happens we can expect it to be equal to NG2.
maybe that is one of the reasons they didn't make full use of the PS3's potential in sigma 2.
I mean you can see they can push the 360 to its limits, and they did a great job with the WII, every one saw how great the graphics of metroid on the wii are, so why didn't they push sigma 2 to it's limits?
because they want to avoid raising the bar to a point that would destroy their 360 market or destroy them. that would easily happen with a dual release game like NG. so I think that the only way to see them use the PS3 freely and make full use of it is via exclusive titles, just the way it is with metroid.

but still they are really considering the PS3's potential, take a look at this interview :
http://kotaku.com/5075850/team...-seen-full-potential

so maybe NG3 wont be that bad or maybe we would see a sigma sort of DOA release.
it can be a new series, no one can tell!

no no, my point is Multiplatform games on PS3 always looks like trash! Xbox 360 DvD can only hold below 8gb, PS3 can hold up to 50gb now. If Team NINJA were to make both versions equal, PS3's version will have to have some features comprised making it equal to Xbox 360's standard.

Just like Lost Planet 2, Xbox 360 limited disc could not allow Capcom to add so much features they wanted to but they had to cut them out and include them as DLC for future release. They had to delete those contents on PS3 too so both version can be equalled even though PS3's version could take all those datas and features.


Also Despair, yes they couldn't use the full power of PS3/Beast for Sigma 2 because the engine was a mix of Ninja Gaiden 2 and Sigma engine. NG2 engine makes the game limited on ps3, reason why the menu slows down and we can't have lots of enemies on screen without framerate dropping down.
God of War 3 can have 50 enemies on screen! no mother farking framerate drop!

W2!? you mean World At War COD?


. It's going to be up to us developers and Sony to make sure that that does happen. just puts a smile in my face.

But still! The game is multiplatform, xbox 360 will hold down the ps3's version!
Unless Team NINJA develops Ninja Gaiden 3 on both system without developing the game on one system and porting it to the other system.

I want Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3 on ps3 to be delayed so we can see the TRUE potential of Ninja Gaiden!
I love God of War 3, and we can see the game's potential thanks to PS3.

how can you be on the computer talking about NG at this time? dang!

you should have been watching football!
I'd understand if u were from the US, but ur not!

it was a great match!

yes it was a great match, but that's out of topic and called trolling.
now about sigma 3, for it to be delayed means that team ninja will continue to wast time doing the same game twice, and for the remake to sell it must be way better than the original, most people I know at least own both 360 and PS3, and it's hard for a fan to wait for a second release of a game he can play now(believe me it's tormenting)
so it's natural to buy the first release, and when the second release is out they feel hesitant to buy it, unless that game offers a lot more than the repeated story mode and not so interesting mission mode, it is true that sigma 2 did offer something but still I consider it little.
of course NG3 will have online mode like sigma 2 did, but what can sigma 3 have more to make up for it's late release? sorry to say it, but team ninja lacks some imagination and creativity.
and for a developing team like that I recommend remakes. maybe remaking prince of Persia 1,2&3 would be a good start, they would make look and play great.
or soul reaver/blood omen, Onimusha ?

i'm surprised you are still alive Toshiro..lol
nah I'm not interested in football. what was the score anyway? some chinese dude predicted it would be 2-1 to Netherlands.


Anyway, to Despair
You call Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 offers a small thing? I consider it a big thing, in fact one of the games that offers a lot.
Better graphics, 3 new playable characters, team mission, chapter challenge, ninja records, better leaderboard, new sound tracks, new stages (not really), new bosses, new enemies, new weapon. And you call this port small offer!? O_o. Games like Star Ocean 4 that was later released on PS3 offered so little. Even Tales of Vesperia on PS3 offers a lot more too.

Well NG3 can offer a lot more from my blog ideas. I'm hoping for an Everlasting Mode. A mission survival mode, constantly fighting infinite fiends till both players dies. And I like it when Team NINJA actually listens to our ideas, if you look back in this forum topics and see people's ideas for Sigma 2 before the game came out, you'd notice TN listened to them.

and for a developing team like that I recommend remakes. maybe remaking prince of Persia 1,2&3 would be a good start, they would make look and play great.
or soul reaver/blood omen, Onimusha ? I don't get it, you want developers like them to do remakes or Team NINJA to do remakes of those games?
We need sequels and new franchises not remakes. Too many developers lack IP and are always looking back to their games to make sequels or remakes. We need new IPs. I need to play Onimusha games and Soul Reaver was sweet.

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well I'd like to say that it is not a port its a remake and it seems fair enough for PS3 owners because they waited enough for it.

and it is fair for team ninja because they get to do stuff they couldn't do with the Xbox or the 360 and the PS3 allows it.
and 360 owners did get to play the game the best way tecmo could make it on a 360, and nearly a year earlier .
so all parties are content. so don't say it's not fair.

now let me ask you a question.
do you think sigma 2 would fit in a DVD?
or would it run on a 360?

still I think that TN should make a simultaneous multiplat release so we don't have to wait for NG3 , DOA5 or what ever the next game is twice the time needed for it to be released.

So why do we have Downloadable content and Internal Harddrives for if we can't store extra data on to it? You guys are completely missing my point entirely.

It doesn't matter how much space each disc has, the point i'm making is one console getting goodies and the other doesn't isn't fair. I have a PS3, and while it's pretty cool i'm also not a fanboy. I'm a gamer who likes to see everyone getting good stuff equally.

Dante's Inferno Divine Edition extras was crap really. It wasn't really that good to warrant "haha I got someone you didn't". The only reason why I got that edition was because where I'm at that was the only edition available and for the same price price for $60 USD.

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but I love my PS3 and since PS3 is a better system, it might as well deserve being treated more like a Princess

Just because, technically speaking, it may have some better parts over the other doesn't mean it should get extra candy. That's a bonus not a right.

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Originally posted by xino:

Farking Xbox 360 will degrade the PS3's version. This p*sses me off so much with multiplatform games! Because the xbox 360 can't handle big boys graphics, developers will have to degrade the PS3's version to Xbox 360 level! This is so annoying and UNFAIR!

What are you talking about? 360 is incredibly capable of "big boy graphics" have you not seen and played Mass Effect 2? Halo Reach? Splinter Cell and Alan Wake?
Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about. NG2 looked the way it did cause it was developed liked that purposely.
Itagaki wanted more enemies and blood, where as Hayashi wanted less enemies and blood and have better graphics and add some purple mist to make it appeal to more audiences.
Both had different approaches for their game.

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I don't care if PS3's Ninja Gaiden Sigma 3 doesn't get exclusive contents, but I want the graphics to be MAXED out on PS3's version! I want all CONTENTS to be there and not deleted! Use up all the Blu Ray space!

Once again, Despair is right, all the tasty contents on Sigma 2 would not even fit on XBOX 360's DvD disc, half of them would have to be DLC expansion.

Um, you do realize Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 didn't even scratch the surface of the Blu-ray Space?
The only games that even took advantage of the Space on Blu-ray disc was Uncharted 2 with 25GB, God of War 3 with 35GB, Final Fantasy 13 with around 35GB as well and Lastly Metal Gear Solid 4 is the only one that was able to max out the space to 50GB...in fact the game was soo big it was actually 60GB and Kojima showed his disappointed about the lack of space 1 disc can hold so he had to compress a few things in order to make it full maxed.

No other game has EVER managed to come close to MGS4 full disc space usage and I don't think we'll ever see another game to fully use the fully dual-layered disc space for a long time.

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my point is Multiplatform games on PS3 always looks like trash! Xbox 360 DvD can only hold below 8gb, PS3 can hold up to 50gb now. If Team NINJA were to make both versions equal, PS3's version will have to have some features comprised making it equal to Xbox 360's standard.

did look like trash, now it's hard to find any multiplatform game right now that shows any amount of dominance. Examples being Modern Warfare, Grand Theft Auto 4, Batman Arkham Asylum, Assassins Creed 2, Bayonetta, Bad Company 2, Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4, Red Dead Redemption....as not shown any differences at all in quality.

I could probably list more but I think that backs my point up. the only way someone can truly and I mean truly say which is better is if you zoom in by like 1000x times or something and check each polygon and Pixel. The rest is just completely nitpicking. So far all Multiplatform games has looked nearly identical to every gamer.

The only way for Team Ninja to make a game that uses the PS3 to the fullest including media format is to develop a brand new franchise/series exclusive to PS3. Which won't happen ever as they love making money as the next company. Just look at Quantum Theory, it was fully reported first being an exclusive Third Person Shooter game like gears for PS3 and later changed to just Quantum now it's fully changed back to Quantum Theory and being made for 360 as well.

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Well NG3 can offer a lot more from my blog ideas.

As great as some of your ideas are on your blog site, and I'm being serious I just don't ever think Tecmo would bother taking any ideas from it. Rare to see developers take any ideas fans come up with or those ideas just aren't plausible for the game they're making for their vision.

I don't want NG3 to be delayed on PS3. I don't care if fanboys think PS3 is superior. I just don't give a crap. what I want is tecmo to finish NG3, make a much better story add some new things maybe bring back some old stuff and that's it. Just make a good game not trying to give one console more Candy than the next. Not only is it a waste of resources and money, but that means they cannot focus on new IP's cause people who has the mindset of "forget about 360; let's give them a watered down piece of game and give PS3 a golden goose to lay a golden egg so it can be the ultimate and better game".
Tecmo needs to remember they have a loyal fanbase of 360 owners of which they started the whole NG reboot on the original Xbox. Now if this means the PS3 may not get extra goodies than so be it. I don't want more goodies, I want a good game for both consoles cause gamers in general needs to have a good game. Make the PS3 version first, port it to 360 during development make some additional tweaks for both console and that's that. Or if they have to, make some of the extra stuff for both version DLC and call it a day. Tecmo has focused ENOUGH with NG and it's time to move on to another game like DOA or maybe a new IP. Asking them to hold off on the PS3 version cause some people want SO MUCH exclusive goodies is just a waste of time and bad for business.

Sorry for the long post guys, I haven't been on the last few days and wanted to touch on my views on this matter. I just want both games to be equally good as possible launch at the same day for both consoles and keep all that extra nonsense for DLC if they must. No exclusives. Enma fang was the worst new exclusive weapon for PS3 version I ever seen. It was no different to Dabilahro and I actually thought it was slower than the dabilahro. I'd rather have the Wooden sword/Unlaboured Flawless over the enma fang tbh.

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