A lot of people don't really know much about Ninja Gaiden (including me).
Team NINJA really did a lot of work into making Ninja Gaiden remake a beastly game.

I'll list the Ninja Arts that were added to Ninja Gaiden Remake from Ninja Gaiden Classic

SHURIKENS
The most basic of ninja weapons. It is thrown straight forward, and attacks only one enemy. Although it is the weakest of all the weapons Ryu has at his disposal, it is indispensable in some areas. This one was taken out completely in Ninja Gaiden III.D

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The shurikens in NG2 looks much better than the ones in NG1. Although the shurikens from Sigma 2 was too big and looks really dumb.



Windmill Shuriken
A more powerful version of the shuriken, imbued with the spirit energy of the thrower. After being thrown, it returns to its owner like a boomerang, and homes in until caught. If Ryu dodges the star on its return flight, it can do severe damage to enemies behind him as well. This is probably the second best weapon in the game, overall. Not as effective against bosses (except in the TurboGrafx version).

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The windmill was also added to NG1, in NG2 you can charge the windmill to perform an Ultimate Technique, it becomes a killing weapon when used as a UT. Although in Sigma 2, you can't charge the windmill shuriken anymore.



Art of the Fire Wheel
Perhaps the most versatile of the ninja arts, the Art of the Fire Wheel sends a series of fireballs upwards diagonally, to damage enemies in the air. This one is the best all-around weapon to have in most areas, and is usually the weapon of choice against bosses.

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This ninpon is only in NG2 or Sigma 2 when Ryu does it and chants "Basara".

Jump and Slash The most powerful ninja ability Ryu has ever possessed. As Ryu jumps into the air, he spins with his sword, doing massive damage to anything he comes into contact with. A well-timed application of this Art can sometimes kill bosses with a single attack! Only found in the original Ninja Gaiden.
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Though we can say that this Jump and Slash in NG can be the Flying Swallow technique. But the classic NG clearly explains the move in details description. The move is sort of like Nariko's move with the Heavenly Sword, one of the combo move she slashes a few time, jumps up in the air and performs this Jump Slash.
We can also say this move could be the Gleaming Blade, rotate the analogue stick with attack and Ryu will spin the Dragon Sword. Anyway since this move isn't present in NG1 and NG2. Team NINJA can implement it to NG3.


Fire Dragon Ball
A similar Art to the Art of the Fire Wheel above, this art allows Ryu to shoot balls of flame at a downward angle, allowing him to clear the way beneath him before he proceeds. Also a very useful technique, introduced in Ninja Gaiden II.

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Another present move in NG1, in which it's the strongest Ninpon. I actually love this ninpon, but it isn't present in NG2.


Invincible Fire Wheel
When Ryu calls upon this Art, he is encased in a ring of fire, which burns any enemies who come too close. It only lasts for a few seconds at a time, but when properly timed, it can make a difficult passage much easier to complete. In the first Ninja Gaiden, it appears at set times, but in II and III, it becomes a normally selectable Art, like all the others.
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This can also be seen in NG1 as your primary Ninpon attack. In NG2/Sigma 2, it's now in a refined version and called Art of the Phoenix. Instead of fire cycling around you, flamed phoenix will cycle around you instead.


Vacuum Wave Art
An Art found only in Ninja Gaiden III, the Vacuum Wave fires bolts of energy directly up and down. This is particularly handy when Ryu is hanging from a ledge or has enemies coming up beneath him. It is primarily a special-purpose weapon, and not one to keep for general use.

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This is only present in NG2 in a form of Art of the Windblades.


Phantom Double Not an attack, but another means of increasing one's chances for survival. Ryu can have up to two Phantoms following him, which will mimic every move he makes precisely, and attack when he does. In this manner, he can strike hard-to-reach enemies and items, while remaining safely out of danger. This item was, unfortunately, found only in Ninja Gaiden II.

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This isn't added to any NG game yet, but it should be added to NG3. But how it will work will be puzzling. Unless Team NINJA could just make it an after image attack instead of actually making it too fiction by adding a double Ryu.



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CHARACTERS

Since Ninja Gaiden is a remake of the Ninja Gaiden Classic, Team NINJA needs to make a lot of stuff gotten from the classic new or refreshed.


Team NINJA really can't make Ninja Gaiden remake take place before Ninja Gaiden Classic. Some part of it can make sense and some really cannot.

I mean if NGRemake takes place before NGClassic, Ryu would have to switch back to the classic costume in NG Classic which wouldn't make sense since the modern costume looks quite modern. Not to also mention the universe they are both set in. As NG Classic is set in our modern day time 21st century and NG Remake is set in post future, same as DOA.



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Irene Lew
A mysterious woman whom Ryu meets in the first Ninja Gaiden. A tough woman, with a good bit of know-how, but seems to have a habit of getting herself into more trouble than she's usually prepared to handle. Despite her seeming dependance, she is more than capable of taking care of herself in most respects.

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Sonia from NG2 is sort of like Irene, as Sonia did get in trouble and Ryu had to rescue her. Itagaki even tried giving hints that she may even be Irene in disguise who knows. But to me, I think Sonia is Irene Lew's version for NG remake.





Ashtar
A dangerous and boastful sorceror, who is revealed to be the Jaquio's true master. He wields the Dark Sword of Chaos, the evil twin to Ryu's Dragon Sword. Throughout the story of Ninja Gaiden II, he delights in taunting Ryu, mocking him at every turn, and goading him to make rash decisions. In the end, however, he proves no match for the power of Ryu's swordsmanship.


I don't know why people call this costume the Ashtar costume but look at these costumes in similarity and tell me if they are sort of connected
To me, only the face/mask looks like the Ryu costume.



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Mask of the Devil.

This mask looks like the same mask those Black Spider clan or the Virgoor ninjas wears. The same mask looks like the one "The Immortals" wears in 300 movie.


Demon Statue from NG Classic, also present in NG1 and plays a big role in NG2 just like how it did in NG2 classic Dark Sword of Chaos


special thanks to ninjagaiden.classicgaming.gamespy.com gamespy's NG Classic

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this is nice.
hey, would you mind finding a video with the Windmill Shuriken Ultimate Attack?
I couldn't find one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzrALGgtTwM

it's best if you see it in action.
Causes instant decapitation or killing with a single Ultimate Technique shot!

Those fiends in NG2/Sigma 2, the zombie with mounted cannon on their arms. Use the UT Windmill on them, and slices them in half with 1 shot! No need to drag combos to them or break a sweat.


Reasons why it's still worth it to own Ninja Gaiden 2.

thanks for the video
I kinda wanted to see it on an enemy, but u say it's a one hit decapitation so it shouldn't be anything new.
why did they take the windmill shuriken Ultimate Technique out of NGS 2?

how can you tell it's been removed?(sources)
however I really liked the Idea of the fantom double.
I loved something like it in chaos legion game by capcom.
it should be a ninja gaiden thing but maybe more like a ninpo attak that summons phantoms or oni maybe to attak quickly swiftly and vanish.

Here's a good example of it.
See it in Action!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COky-j4OkE8

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Originally posted by Despair:
how can you tell it's been removed?(sources)
however I really liked the Idea of the fantom double.
I loved something like it in chaos legion game by capcom.
it should be a ninja gaiden thing but maybe more like a ninpo attak that summons phantoms or oni maybe to attak quickly swiftly and vanish.

I can tell because the control for the game has changed. You can now use projectile weapons in first person mode, like walking, strafing left and right with it. But you can't use UT with the bow n arrow, so they basically removed Projectile weapons Ultimate Technique. You can't even do it with Ayane's projectile weapon.


Trust me, ability to use UT with projectile weapon was so damn cool!


As for the Phantom Double, remember that they tried to make NG as realistic as possible. So having a double Ryu would make NG too fictional.
So it's best to make Ryu perform the Phantom Double with his After image technique. Or a shadow ryu that appears for a brief moment and disappears.

even though projectile UT can be fun, it makes the game sort of easier, since you don't really have to be near the enemies or anything.

there's no point in making the game more realistic since there are ghosts and magic (ninpo)
I like the idea of making a Ninpo that creates a clone, but instead of him disappearing after a few seconds, he would disappear when he looses all his HP (his HP would be super short until you use the Jewel of Demon Seal on it, or the clone's HP would be a quarter of what Ryu has, and he can't be healed)

kage-bunshin no-jutsu! =P

Well it's true that the game isn't even close to realistic now. But do you know a spiritual thing called "Chi"/"Ki". Well human's are still trying to learn the extent of how we can manipulate our chi.

I've only seen 1 person perform a chi that looks like a fire ball. Well not exactly like a fireball. But the guy put a squeezed up paper on the floor, he placed his palm next to the paper like 10cm away from it and concentrated his ki on the paper. And what do you know, he made the paper burn, fire was burning the paper!

If this master keeps practising, who knows, he may be able to do an hadouken but without seeing it, it may be invisible.


Anyway what I'm trying to say is, Ryu uses chi to generate ninpos and Ultimate Technique. So let's say Ryu has been practising for years, with his Dragon Lineage blood giving him another upper hand. Then we can say the ninpo can actually be performed in real life:P


If Ryu could create a clone with his chi, I would want the clone to be soft. I mean if the clone gets hit once, he'll disappear. But you have to think about how the control would work.


Sorry but my memory is fuzzy, what is Jewel of the Demon Seal again!? I've forgotten hard!

Well, if you could make a clone with the ninpo and you can control that clone, how would you be able to control the real Ryu?


I still say the clone should be an after image attack that shouldn't last long.

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Or we could say, when you hold down the button to charge for an Ultimate Technique, while holding it down, if you press the Block button with it and release them both together. Ryu would perform the ultimate attack, as soon as he dashes, his after image will be the clone.
It's hard to explain, but a concept will explain what I'm trying to say.


Let's say the Dragon Sword's Ultimate Technique. You've seen how he does it, he dashes in between the combo and does more combo that elevates the enemy.
Let's say when he dashes in-between the combos, the After Image that appears would turn to the clone and the clone will perform the same Ultimate Technique with the Dragon Sword from the beginning. So by the time the real Ryu finishes the remaining Ultimate Technique, you'll be able to control him again, you can just watch while the clone finishes he's own Ultimate Technique, once he finishes he'll just disappear.

And again we can say, when you charge for Ultimate Technique, if you hold block as soon as you release the attack. Ryu would cancel out of the charge, and the clone would perform the ultimate technique, leaving you blocking.


I do hope Tecmo, pass this idea to Team NINJA, because this is a great additional feature!

the Jewel of Demon Seal is the Purple ball that upgrades ninpo attacks.
just like Life of Gods increases life, and spirit of the devils adds one spot for ninpo

and I'm not saying the clone is a playable object, he'll just be a NPC who fights like the brown or white ninja (very poorly) from NGS1, just on your side.

No no no no, forget all that, forget even the idea o f a CLONE.
It should be a ninpo that summons a creature(demonic or something ) that performs a very cool jaw dropping attak, or assist(they are all NPC's ) Ryu(you) in the fight. it all happens within a time limit, and I suggest that upgrading the ninpo will not lengthen the time limit but the way they fight.
NOT a clone, not an after image but someone else!

But NG is all about challenging game right?
If you add a A.I to assist you, then it may as well make the game easy.

And remember Despair, Ryu's ninpo are elemental only. It will really be awkward if he summons a monster/demon with his ninpo to assist him. That would make Ryu a summoner like those mages, so him being a super ninja will be removed and be called summoner, magic, witch doctor etc. So this is deeply a no-no.


Unless we can still say, while charging in Ultimate Technique stance, hold press the block button to cancel out of it and Ryu will split himself into two: Real and Clone. You'll be able to control both at the same time, if the clone gets hit once, he'll disappear. The good thing about this is, two Ryu's means win. The bad side about this is the control will feel weird, and it must or the game would feel too easy.

You know Marvel vs Capcom, when you perform a double co-op and your partner joins you and you can control both of them on screen at once. That's so cool because it gives you the advantage to use two characters at the same time, but the downside is the control will make controlling both of them harder.


I mean these ideas are good, but there has to be something to give it a downside so it can be balanced.

this is all unnecessary, this would be a little similar to Momiji's ninpo, the one that seeks the souls of the bad.

if Ryu were to create something that chases the enemies, it might as well be Momiji's souls seeking fireballs.

oh, there could be a player controlled fireball, like on NG DS, you'll get a few seconds to move the ball with your analog stick.

There's no way you can control two things at the same time using only one controller, so a clone can not be made.

but Rachel uses real magic here, she summons the demon rose to kill all nearby objects. so Ryu could learn spells from a person like Rachel.

ninpo that seeks the soul of the bad!??
are you talking about her fire ninpo like that of Sigma 2?

Ryu using a ninpo that chases enemies and player controlling fire ninpo? I don't get it, because you can do all that from NG1. You can select what enemy you want to shoot a ninpo at.

There's no way you can control two things at the same time using only one controller, so a clone can not be made.
Did you read my comment? You can control two characters at the same time as I gave an example which is Marvel vs Capcom. Another example Unreal Championship 2. You can control two characters which gives you an advantage (2 characters vs 1= win). Though the disadvantage is controlling both characters, one of them will move in the opposite direction. This disadvantage is to balance the use of using 2 characters.

In NGS 1, the ninpo went at the closest enemy.
In NGS 2, the ninpo makes that small circle around it's target.
and in Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword (for the DS) you moved the fire ball using your stylus, so instead of using the stylus, you use your analog stick and try to touch as many enemies as you can.

Ninjas moving in opposite directions? how are you supposed to do that on a 3D game? besides, each "side" of Ryu will have to block at different times, and this can't be done since when one blocks, both block. you just can't keep up with two ninjas at once, you can hardly even keep up with one! =D

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Originally posted by Toshiro3:
In NGS 1, the ninpo went at the closest enemy.
In NGS 2, the ninpo makes that small circle around it's target.
and in Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword (for the DS) you moved the fire ball using your stylus, so instead of using the stylus, you use your analog stick and try to touch as many enemies as you can.

Ninjas moving in opposite directions? how are you supposed to do that on a 3D game? besides, each "side" of Ryu will have to block at different times, and this can't be done since when one blocks, both block. you just can't keep up with two ninjas at once, you can hardly even keep up with one! =D

well since you are saying controlling two Ryu wouldn't work with 1 controller. I could say the same to controlling a fire ninpo.
If you are busy trying to manipulate the fire to burn enemies, what of enemies behind Ryu? Wouldn't they attack him and it'd stop Ryu from controlling the fire. So it's best to have the ability to select the enemies and burn them. This was possible in Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden 2. I am not talking about Art of the Fire wheel or Art of the Phoenix. Those ones are the revamp version of the classic Invincible Fire wheel.

Toshiro, you seem to be forgetting the concept of this Phantom Double attack and Ninja Gaiden game. Ninja Gaiden games are meant to be challenging, if you have an A.I to support you, it will ease up the gameplay for you. If you are able control both Ryu, whereas the Real Ryu will stand on the Left and Clone will stand on the right (like a mirror image), this will still make the game too easy.
So it's best to have a downside for something that would make a subject easy.
Remember, if the Clone Ryu would have his own health, it'll make the game easier because the clone will last longer in battle.
So it's best to make the clone disappear if he gets hit once.

I'm sure you must have seen fantasy movies/anime, whereas when a character creates multiple versions of himself, if one of them gets hit, it disappears, example Forbidden Kingdom (monkey), Naruto (naruto clones), Ninja Scroll (Shujima Claw), Street Fighter Alpha (Rose).

In fact we can even say, if the real Ryu gets hit once then the clone will disappear. Then again the game can be made easier as long as the player avoids getting hit.


you just can't keep up with two ninjas at once, you can hardly even keep up with one! =DThat is why I say the Phantom Dust should be an After Image attack. If you perform an Ultimate Technique; during the animation combo; if you hit the block button, Ryu would cancel out of the combo leaving his chi-After Image to continue and finish the Ultimate Technique attacks. While the clone is busying finishing the Ultimate Technique, you can control Ryu. Once the Ultimate Technique finishes, the clone will disappear.



Anyway apart from this Phantom Dust.
Can you think of another Ninpo Team NINJA can use for Ninja Gaiden 3?
we certainly need new ones O_o

the ninpo that magically summons a demon that performs an attak that effects a group of enemies and then vanish(like the efriet in GOW chains of olympus game) looks to me cool and prutal yet clean(Ryu lets an Oni or a demon do his derty work for him).
It is magic just like the fire weel and art of inferno and other ninpo's but it just involves summonings and demons(Oni).
Or we can use a ninpo to summon not an Oni but a weapon that is way powerfull and mistical(they should be scary and maybe evil)
this way you perform a fully controlable ninpo that looks cool, fun to play and add something to the game.
BOTH ninpo's MUST be TIME LIMITED and/or health consuming to force the player to use them wisely. of course the olde style ninpo's should take part in the game changed or as they are.
elemental ninpo's are nice but not as interesting.

So this concludes it, no ninja clones in the game.

on the Nintendo DS, when you manipulate the fireball, you don't get hurt (just like while you're charging an Inferno attack, no one can touch you)

the Art of Ice Storm should freeze the enemies and make them stay that way until they melt, but in the game they just fall and the ice breaks, freeing them.

the element that Ryu's missing is earth, I think there could be a ninpo that creates two earth statues that slide together and crush an enemy in between. the statues could hold spears or swords that penetrate through the enemies body in the process of being crushed. and after the two statues collide, they break into tiny pieces. this could look pretty cool. =D

any suggestions on earth ninpo?

Despair:
lol
the summoning wouldn't work because Ryu is a Super Ninja not a summoner, remember he's a Dragon Lineage.
I don't get the summon weapon thing though.
But why would you want to control a scary evil weapon for a limited time, what about controlling Ryu? Would he be standing there focusing on the weapon while you control the weapon that tear ninja's up?


Yea Toshiro, no ninja clone:/ But I do really want an After Image clone

There should be two version of Art of the Ice Storm. One that acts like a tornado from NG1. The second should be like Ayane's ninpo, but the impact would freeze enemies for a limited time.


The Earth ninpon, I wouldn't agree about the statues, feels like a summoning again. But I can say instead of it being statues, it can be a large rock that smashes enemies together.
But I do want a Earth ninpo that shakes the ground, this will not kill enemies but only stun them.
If you play Wip3out HD, the Quake Attack animation is so awesome. It's exactly how I want the Earth Ninpo to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sP2rf1ZqSE

It happens at 0:17. You can hear the woman say Quake, just watch out for the effect.

Or an Earth Attack that blows enemies away like ragdoll.

at first I said two walls of stones, but it wouldn't be as cool as statues.
creating statues wouldn't really be summoning, it would be shaping the earth into shape of warriors.

Ryu isn't evil, so he can't summon an evil creature.
But there could be an attack where Ryu uses his dragon sword to call the dragon spirit that deals damage exactly like fiend Murai when he calls the dark dragon, this would be the UT using the True Dragon Sword, and to make it harder to deploy, it would be the "spin-the-analog-stick" UT. (fiend Murai's Dark Dragon Sword rotates when the dragon is called in NGS 1)

xino:when I say summon a weapon,I mean Ryu holding the summond weapon and you controling Ryu.the weapon will have its combo's and attaks.
and why can't Ryu summon an Oni or any demonic presence?I mean it's really a big part of the ninja world and ninja fantasies.
you seem to me that you only want the ninpo to limited and a one moment thing.
and the way you want the ninpo to act is just not interactive and adds nothing to the game but looks.
why do you refuse things that adds to the gameplay,imagine more weapons that are hard to aquire and hard to use but are highly capable and devastating,if you want to talk about it I have plenty of concepts on the top of my mind .still it's Ur openion and I respect it.but the idea of the earth element moving rock thing sucks!!
and besides I think Ryu already had earth in his ninpo collection when he used a rock to fly and fight the puple gianyt boss in sigma.
and the after image I hate it.cuz if ryu as at 2 places at the same time, 2 me it's either a summon or a clone.