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| Lisa |
I would like to say as a HUGE Ninja Gaiden/Tecmo fan that i'm disappointed in NGS2, but not because of the blood and gore loss or the lack of content. First its the all of the females in the game. I thought this was NG, a game about Ryu Hayabusa, the super ninja. Not about useless female ninja who really have nothing to do with Ryu's vengeance. If i wanted to play with Ayane or see Kasumi then i'd put in my Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball disc NOT Ninja Gaiden. I think Rachel is fine in the NG story because she actually ties into the plot to actually play with in a few missions like in NG and NGS1 but ot theses other (females). Also your forced to play wit hthese charcters that have nothing to do with Ryu and yes they appear in the story but thats all it should be. Once again this is NG and is about Ryu tecmo, not about these busty, super model DOA characters for perverts. Second what disappoints me is the easy difficulty in NGS2. Sure i know its made to not scare away noobs but thats why you have the acolyte difficulty, duh!!! When i hear the name Ninja Gaiden, the first things that comes to my mind is the hardest action/ adventure game in history and always has been since it was on the NES. The acolyte difficulty was a way to get the noobs to play and not give up as well as to keep the good players to play in the higher more diffcult levels that make it feel like i'm playing Ninja Gaiden. Last is the mission mode. I truely think you should have a choice to play co-op or alone/ completely by yourself, like on the previous Ng's. They should make two selections to do this instead of it only being co-op with or without a human player so Tecmo i please ask you do take these into consideration becasue these are the things that really ruin the game and takes away from the name Ninja Gaiden or you will lose me as a fan and customer of your products and especially Ninja Gaiden (and this isn't a treat) p.s. to the forum kids. i don't care about my grammar. i just wanted to prove a point and show my opinion about the game | ||
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| Lisa |
Tomonobu > Hayashi. Tomonobu is better because he knows how to make Ninja Gaiden. Hayashi just rides off of what Itagaki makes and with NGS2 Hayashi did worse than what Itagaki had done with the glitches and stuff. I've recently went back to NG2 because of the issues i listed above and to me thats sad that you ahve to go to an older game to feel happy about what your playing. | |||
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Ryu![]() |
I would like to say as a HUGE Ninja Gaiden/Tecmo fan that i'm disappointed in NGS2, but not because of the blood and gore loss or the lack of content.Lack of content!? and you are a huge NG fan, that comment right there I could just mark you as a waste of time. But I won't, seriously how can NGS2 have lack of content??? No you are not a HUGH NG fan, because if you are, you'd know that NG2 has no content! Isn't Team Mission Mode a content? (heck you had to pay for and download Mission mode content to add to NG2) Isn't Ninja Record a content? Isn't Chapter Select a content? All the stuff fans asked for is what they gave and you say NGS2 lacks content. First its the all of the females in the game. I thought this was NG, a game about Ryu Hayabusa, the super ninja. Not about useless female ninja who really have nothing to do with Ryu's vengeance. If i wanted to play with Ayane or see Kasumi then i'd put in my Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball disc NOT Ninja Gaiden. I think Rachel is fine in the NG story because she actually ties into the plot to actually play with in a few missions like in NG and NGS1 but ot theses other (females). I do agree with this, but Hayashi added more playable characters to make NGS2 a money can buy and to make it feel like a new game. Hearing Ayane was it in the game got me excited, till I watched the trailer and saw Momiji (I was like...ok, hope no more characters). Until they showed Rachel for the GDC trailer, and I felt like NGS2 has too much character. But to me, it's worth it, because it adds to the package and Team Mission (ultimate package). But I don't want more than 2 playable characters in the Next NG series. It's all about Ryu alone! If Team Mission will be in the next NG (which I hope), then let it be 1 unlockable character! Rachel is perfect for NG because she's an original character built up from the NG series and not DOA, but I do feel that it will be nostalgia if they add her to NG3. Let her only be in NGS2, though she can still appear as a cameo in NG3. Also your forced to play wit hthese charcters that have nothing to do with Ryu and yes they appear in the story but thats all it should be. Once again this is NG and is about Ryu tecmo, not about these busty, super model DOA characters for perverts. I seriously had enough hearing this sh*:/ if people don't want to be forced Second what disappoints me is the easy difficulty in NGS2. Sure i know its made to not scare away noobs but thats why you have the acolyte difficulty, duh!!! When i hear the name Ninja Gaiden, the first things that comes to my mind is the hardest action/ adventure game in history and always has been since it was on the NES. The acolyte difficulty was a way to get the noobs to play and not give up as well as to keep the good players to play in the higher more diffcult levels that make it feel like i'm playing Ninja Gaiden. I have no idea why you are complaining about the Acolyte difficulty. It's meant for newcomers not for you. You think I'll pay £40 for a game and not be able to finish it because it was frustrating? not to mention people who always blame the camera. NOj. Acoltye difficulty it's how it was meant to be, once again Itagaki has a narrowmind, he should know that some people can't be assed to play hardcore games. Again NGS2 is not easy, if you don't want it to be easy, reduce the Ultimate Tech longevity moves and remove Obliteration Tech! Why do you think back in the days why Capcom always make 2 difficulties Easy which was equivalent to Normal, and Normal which was equivalent to Hard mode, hence the titles Devil May Cry, Resident Evil (there are more titles to mention). To me Acoltye is the same as Ninja Dog. I nearly gave up on Normal mode until Ayane asked if I'm sure I'll really quit, then she gave me Ninja Dog. If you want to play Master NInja difficulty, start from the easiest mode and practise. People are all trying to show off in NGS2, some people have finished Master Ninja mode already but can't even finish Mentor 05 or Master NInja 02! Idiots just want to boast and try and get into the leaderboard ranked amongst people who have beaten Ultimate Ninja 04/05, but can't even kill the first two Last is the mission mode. I truely think you should have a choice to play co-op or alone/ completely by yourself, like on the previous Ng's. They should make two selections to do this instead of it only being co-op with or without a human player WTF are you talking about? Good luck trying to beat Ultimate Ninja missions alone. Team Missions means Team work, I bet you are those sort of people who just forgets about your partner and just show off trying to kill all enemies alone. Tomonobu > Hayashi. Tomonobu is better because he knows how to make Ninja Gaiden. Hayashi just rides off of what Itagaki makes and with NGS2 Hayashi did worse than what Itagaki had done with the glitches and stuff. I've recently went back to NG2 because of the issues i listed above and to me thats sad that you ahve to go to an older game to feel happy about what your playing. Great, now we have another itagaki fanboy who doesn't realise a good game when he sees one. I still have no reason why Hayashi is following Itagaki's footsteps, like when you finish Story mode, the karma point will calculate how much ninpos you have left. That wasn't needed in Sigma 1 or Sigma 2 since Ninpo works at 60fps. Because Itagaki made that karma point for the ninpo because he felt that the ninpo when cast on XBox 1 doesn't move at, was it 30fps or 60fps, but the framerate drops. So he didn't want people to use a broken ninpo with a bad framerate, therefore you'll be rewarded with karma points if you don't use ninpo. I guess Itagaki is still better than Hayashi...right? or you must really be stupid, no offence. Since he could make the ninpo move at a better framerate in NG2, he urged people to use more ninpos, that is why you always get surrounded by enemies all at once. Nothing in NG needs to be changed! Itagaki didn't make NG, so itagaki fanboy stop pretending as if Itagaki made NG. Itagaki only directed NG. Itagaki directed NG1 to an awesome path, but also directed NG2 to a doomed path. Hayashi had to re-direct NGS2 to an awesome path again. Again Itagaki nearly f**ed DOA4, let's just hope that Hayahis will fix DOA series, I wonder if Hayashi even worked on DOA games...I'm sure he did. ------------------------------------------------ The only things that needed to change after NGS2 are: *Ryu alone and 1 unlockable character *No DOA character mixed to NG *Remove FPS mode when using Projectile (bow n arrow), this is an hack n slash not a f***ng Action FPS *No more Rachel, just a cameo *Keep chapter select, ninja record, team missions, and karma window off in storymode *If you want NG to be hard- remove Obliteration Tech and reduce Ultimate Tech movesets. If you like the 1 touch of death that puts your evasion skills to the test, leave them. Rather than NG2 that puts your cheapness to the test. *Better controls, since Sigma 1, controls are 100% not responsive and always lock while blocking, and happened in NG2 and NGS2. *Better story *Remove the stupid ridiculous enemies on screen like NG2 that causes bugs and slow down. If you don't understand xbox 360 chip, don't put so much enemies on screen, if you do understand Xbox 360's graphics chip, then we'll expect games like Splinter Cell Conviction. Same goes to PS3, if you don't understand it's hardware, don't put so much explosions and effects on screen that will cause slow down, if you do know PS3's chip set, we'll expect games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 as the outcome. *Bring back the Windmill shuriken and explosive incendiary. It's a good thing they were removed in NGS2, because using the windmill shuriken's ultimate tech will always guarantee a win situation and make the game easier. | |||
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| Helena |
There's already a post for this you just posted the same thing just in a different way look before posted and stop complaining about the game you bought it just accept it and wait for a patch if there is one coming Plus it's 2 different game makers don't expect the same from the xbox 360 makers | |||
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Ryu![]() |
lol. exactly...you summarised the whole discussion! They are two different game makers, one is an xbot Itagaki and the other a ps3tard Hayashi. If you don't like ps3tard, then go buy the new game xbot is making. As xbot are no more, don't complain here and keep playing the rushed broken game NG2. Even the xbot said so himself that "never rush a game". trolls will always be trolls. | |||
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| Lisa |
lololol ok first of get your facts right about these things. I'm definately not a Itagaki fanboy, but he has done more with the game then hayashi. When i mentioned something about the mission mode i stated that they should have an original mission mode like in the previous/original NG's to where its you and only you and a team mission mode also but in their own catagories. Have you even played the mission modes in NGB or NGS1??? thats waht i'm talking about they should add also but with the team mission modes. I beat i have more team work than you could ever put out because i play a lot of team games and i have my own individual skill. I just like to do my things alone I wasn't picking on acolyte mode but NGS2's normal mode surely seems like acolyte and i was saying to mkae the difficulties like how they should be and by doing this you can still kepp the hardcore and noobs into the game. Why would anyone want Hayate when hes a character of the DOA series not NG. Oh and read what i said about the lack of content. I clearly said i wasn't ****ed at the game for things like lack of content meaning it doesn't lack anything at all but maybe thats my fault to for not making that clear. yes i agree with bringing back the windmill and incendiary back because those are main/default weapons and has always been in NG ever since the NES versions. Its like playing halo without the AR or BR. so next time try to get your facts right about what you say about me and i excuse my bad grammar. i just try to prove a point and show my opinion, not use correct punctuation for a grade like in english class. maybe thats why you got some wrong ideas about me and watch who your talking to. I wasn't being rude ot you so you don't have to be rude to me. you don't know me | |||
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| Lisa |
forgot to add that i'm neither a xbot or ps3tard fanboy. i own both systems and i also play pc games so i'm not a fan over the other because they all have good games | |||
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| Lisa |
lol how am i suppose to know that someone already post this and i just joined the forum today! lol give me a f@#$%&* break. | |||
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| Helena |
no one said you were Itagaki. Plus the ps3 makers were trying something new for the first time they're not just going to make a big bang out of co-op for the first time they have to test the grounds. Actually Acolyte was to easy I never died in Acolyte , normal isn't the same as acolyte they removed items and what not and made the enemies have a little more strength and take a little bit more of your life. so there for they're not the same the harder the difficulty the more life you lose the less money u make. It's better that the ps3 makers moved on from windwill and etc it shows they're not trying to be the same with xbox 360 and no one said anything about you just simple said go read other threads before you post something the same as another thread just written in the same way.. | |||
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Ryu![]() |
lololol ok first of get your facts right about these things. I'm definately not a Itagaki fanboy, but he has done more with the game then hayashi. my facts are straight...what more as he done? eh? I guess he made concept arts, illustrations, character designs, music composing etc...seriously stop typing trash. He's a director, he directs the team. If something is wrong with an image, he'll say "give it more colouring, more facial expression", "I want the music to be loud and scary". That's his job! Once again, you're a itagaki fanboy if you fail to realise his duty. Itagaki has two jobs from my point of view, 1 job is to direct and second job is to steal the frame and act as if he single handedly made 1 sick game. I beat i have more team work than you could ever put out because i play a lot of team games and i have my own individual skill. ohhhhhhh...trying to showoff and boast are we. Half of the idiots I've played online, some who are even Master Ninjas, ALWAYS have difficulty reviving their partners. If you are not good enough to revive your partner, then you shouldn't be playing team missions. I wasn't picking on acolyte mode but NGS2's normal mode surely seems like acolyte and i was saying to mkae the difficulties like how they should be and by doing this you can still kepp the hardcore and noobs into the game. Like I said before, the game is easier because of long lasting Ultimate Tech moves and obliteration Tech. People complained about cheap NG2 was with the projectile spammings, now it is fixed in NGS2 and people are complaining that it's easier. The reason for Normal mode feeling easy is because Team NINJA are trying to directing you in your goal. Your goal is to beat Master Ninja mode right? so you shouldn't care if Normal mode feels easy or hard, as long as you get a challenge in Master Ninja, that is all that matters. Hardcore players?? ones who like to exploit cheap moves on bosses or ones who don't even know what right moveset can deal better damage on bosses. Seriously, I know how people abuse and play this game and act as if they are good players. Why would anyone want Hayate when hes a character of the DOA series not NG.the same reason why they want Kasumi and Muramasa playable:/ yes i agree with bringing back the windmill and incendiary back because those are main/default weapons and has always been in NG ever since the NES versions. Its like playing halo without the AR or BR.you mustn't forget that this Ninja Gaiden Francise is a remake of the classic, therefore the shurikens are Ryu's main projectile. If you can't perform Acrobatics, how can you obtain the windmill shuriken in NG1? And Halo ODST, you start off with a pistol, not assault rifle or battle rifle:P so next time try to get your facts right about what you say about me and i excuse my bad grammar. i just try to prove a point and show my opinion, not use correct punctuation for a grade like in english class. maybe thats why you got some wrong ideas about me and watch who your talking to. I wasn't being rude ot you so you don't have to be rude to me. you don't know me I do get my facts straight, I either put something down that was said by a person or developer, or post a link as evidence, I don't type out of opinion. And stop mentioning your grammar, have you seen me trash your grammar in any of my post? I'm not like those kind of sad ass whips who are bad are dissing someone but always attack your grammar. People like that are just forum dwellers and trolls, who go around different forums causing problems amongst users. We I don't mean to be rude to you indefinitely or out of proportion. But we have too many trolls who sign up and just to post their fanboy opinions about the game without thinking while the directions were made to the game. blood, removal of weapon, ryu using cannon, girls playable etc | |||
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| Lisa |
I'm pretty sure the windmill and incendiary isn't something the 360 owns. Its been a part of NG since the game first came to life on the NES. Certainly it shouldn't have been taken out for a stupida@$ cannon. For example think of playing Street Fighter on the ps3 for sooo long with the hadokens etc then they switch to the 360 and take out those hadokens and shoryukens. Those weapons are a big part of the game. I don't know the word for it but its something that has to be in the game because its a classic and its what makes the game...the game. Just think when you people talk about SF they say oh yeah the shoryukens and stuff and with NG they say oh yeah Ryu Hayabusa, dragon sword, windmill and incendiaries. | |||
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| Lisa |
lol when i mention halo about halo i'm talking about the online. nobody cares about the story. but anyways back to ninja gaiden because this is the ng forum not bungie | |||
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Ryu![]() |
Another valid point MikeTroy! People who keep complaining about the direction of NGS2 are just selfish trolls, as they act as if they made the game for xbox users. Sigma series are exclusive just to the ps3! They give ps3 owners to have a taste of NG series, the original title for the xbox console. What ever decision made, xbox users should not complain! More-so, they tried to make Sigma 2 a new game so that xbox users who beta tested the game can buy this new game without it being a full port of the original. Seriously, if Team NINJA ported all the things from NG2 to NGS2 without Team Missions or playable characters. If NGS2 was just a complete port with NG2's content and fixed bugs (plus free mission mode). Hell, I'll still be happy, and here's a question. Do you think Xbox users will buy NGS2 exact port of NG2? Since NGS2 is like a new game with so many sacrifice, it makes having the broken game NG2 still worth having. Just like you said, you have gone back playing NG2 because of the details you listed, so why are you here bashing NGS2? I don't even know if Timshiro is even a troll or not:/ Because if your aim is getting Master Ninja, why should you care how difficult Normal mode is? You've played NG series from NES if not, from Xbox 1 to NG2. So therefore you should be familiar and used to Normal difficulty. How can you even tell how hard or easy Normal is when you are used to those mode? Master Ninja is the mode for you so you shouldn't complain about difficulty modes below you! Yet you want to judge Normal mode how easy it is and command that new comers should not find it easy but work hard to finish normal mode. | |||
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| Lisa |
lol so because i agree with what itagaki has doen with the game makes me a fan??? your pretty one dimensional. thats like me saying your a clinton fan because you agree with his work but you don't mind him so once again i'm not a itagaki fanboy. get it right buddy. he has just done better in my eyes than itagaki but lets see how NG# will be. either that game will change my mind about hayashi or not, only time will tell | |||
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| Helena |
Yea I'm not complaining about the easy modes those are fun and decent. Master Ninja is the mode people wanna complain about if they suck and don't know how to block and kill... but overall I like the game no complaints ex except online with the lag thats it but I'm use to it so I don't really care sigma 2 was just a test for ps3 to see how it handles online play hopefully in 3 they make co-op in story mode hopefully I don't find someone dying every 3secs in master ninja 1 online lol. Nt even 3 secs like 2 idk how he got all the costumes but damn that day made me feel bad | |||
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| Lisa |
i'd play NG if it was on the pc, xbox or ps3 so it doesn't matter to me. hell i like NGS1(which is a ps3 game) better than NGB. so stop with the fanboy crap | |||
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Ryu![]() |
Ever had second thoughts why they were removed them in the first place? That is why I can't take things lightly when people come here posting stuff without using their brain. Like people coming here complaining about the blood without using their brain and given that it's the reason to counter age rating. Once again, NG is a remake of the Classic, there are only 2 titles released (NG1 & NG2) and we are not sure if both explosive shurikens/windmill shurikens are Ryu's default projectiles since once again it's a remake and things can change. So right now the shurikens are Ryu's main projectiles he comes equipped with. Was there explosive shurikens and windmill shuriken in NG dragon sword???? If they are not in NGDS, then why complain about NGS2 not having them. Even though they took out both projectiles, they brought 2 awesome things- 1= to be able to use bow n arrow with the default projectile "shurikens"...this is a win for me and I'll take this any time over windmill and explosives, since you can perform extra combo with bow n arrow and shurikens (not to mention that's the whole purpose of hack n slash: to perform combos). 2= can auto lock with the bow and move in FPS (not so much about FPS:/) I wouldn't count the howling cannon as a good addiction as I don't like it! I'll say it again, Windmill Shurikens and Explosives shurikens are not Ryu's default projectile weapons. It's Ryu, Dragon Sword and Shurikens that makes Ninja Gaiden. Windmill and Explosives were removed to counter NGS2 from being a port of NG2 and making it a new game. Stop complaining, this is PS3's game not xbox, this is Sigma series not NG. In Sigma series it's Ryu, Dragon Sword, bow n arrow and shuriken that makes it Sigma. | |||
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| Tina |
eh, no more forums for me, this is getting too repetitive, boring, and useless. oh, Xino, this is what I use instead of the $20 game guide. http://guides.ign.com/guides/775527/page_3.html and what is it with "shiro" endings? since I joined this site, there has been at least 2 people with this ending in their usernames. I'm Toshiro, and it actually has a meaning. | |||
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| Lisa |
lol my shiro goes from a long way | |||
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Ryu![]() |
lol so because i agree with what itagaki has doen with the game makes me a fan??? your pretty one dimensional. thats like me saying your a clinton fan because you agree with his work but you don't mind him so once again i'm not a itagaki fanboy. get it right buddy. he has just done better in my eyes than itagaki but lets see how NG# will be. either that game will change my mind about hayashi or not, only time will tell Ok explain what Itagaki has done:/ I have respect for Itagaki and his work but I don't like his attitude and show offs. Plus he nearly destroyed DOA and NG series with DOA4 and NG2. Hayashi had to save NG series, let's hope he does the same to DOA. Yea I'm not complaining about the easy modes those are fun and decent. Master Ninja is the mode people wanna complain about if they suck and don't know how to block and kill... but overall I like the game no complaints ex except online with the lag thats it but I'm use to it so I don't really care sigma 2 was just a test for ps3 to see how it handles online play hopefully in 3 they make co-op in story mode hopefully I don't find someone dying every 3secs in master ninja 1 online lol. Nt even 3 secs like 2 idk how he got all the costumes but damn that day made me feel bad Nah I wasn't aiming that to you, but to Timshiro. The online mode is p*ssing me off too. I'm waiting for Lord Doku to give the right explanation why Japanese games with online mode always have bad lag/connection...because I think I'm starting to know the theory behind it. Yea it's Team NINJA's Sigma team's first time in making online game. You can tell how bad the overall design is, I wouldn't say it's bad. But it's like a first brainstorm concept that comes in mind when you want to develop an online game. | |||
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